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Can any of the boards liberals explain this to me?

Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:35 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1767 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:35 am
So.....trump wants to direct an investigation into his political rival's son who's a private citizen=bad.

Biden's justice department investigating a private citizen who's going to be his political rival=no big deal and actually encouraging?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94757 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:36 am to
That's (D)ifferent.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46091 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:39 am to
Trump merely requesting the cooperation of Ukraine in the investigation of the company Hunter was working for was impeachable election interference.

But 8 federal investigations later, raiding MAL and seizing passports and lingerie from the presumptive nominees home, Democrats are swearing that its different this time.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:45 am to
I presume I'm a board liberal.

1. hunter biden is a relative of the potus.
2. trump is the former president.

one is the actual.
one isn't.

I don't care about hunter.
if he's guilty your jury can say so. idngaf.

btw the former president decided to try to keep power after he lost.
that's the single worst case in us history.

sometimes whataboutism is not a great look.

Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25939 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:46 am to
quote:

Trump merely requesting the cooperation of Ukraine in the investigation of the company Hunter was working for was impeachable election interference.


That’s a bit disingenuous. It wasn’t merely just asking for cooperation. Dems were hung up that he delayed congress approved funds in exchange for cooperation. Quid pro quo.

If he just asked, they would have bitched more than likely but couldn’t have impeached him.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4172 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:46 am to
quote:

btw the former president decided to try to keep power after he lost.

How?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42147 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:47 am to
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I presume I'm a board liberal.


Wrong.

You are a goose-stepping leftist.

There is a BIG difference.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15435 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:48 am to
You could have saved time typing that out and just said “that’s (D)ifferent”
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 6:49 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46091 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:48 am to
quote:

he delayed congress approved funds in exchange for cooperation. Quid pro quo.


Who is being disingenuous?

But if you want to be persnickety, Biden did that too. Very publicly. Was it only a problem when democrats imagined Trump doing it?
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25939 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:49 am to
quote:

I presume I'm a board liberal. 1. hunter biden is a relative of the potus. 2. trump is the former president. one is the actual. one isn't. I don't care about hunter. if he's guilty your jury can say so. idngaf. btw the former president decided to try to keep power after he lost. that's the single worst case in us history. sometimes whataboutism is not a great look.


What? Can you try again?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17930 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:49 am to
You a blithering idiot.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
25939 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:51 am to
quote:

But if you want to be persnickety, Biden did that too. Very publicly. Was it only a problem when democrats imagined Trump doing it?


Yes VP Biden publicly stated that he gave an ultimatum. No one is saying otherwise nor is that part of the conversation.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1767 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:53 am to
I have to ask this as well. Explain to me in detail with actual facts on how exactly he tried to keep power after he lost...

I feel like this new "whataboutism" argument is the new "debunked" arguing strategy for liberals.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 6:55 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46091 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:54 am to
Awesome. Now for step 2.

Show us where Trump engaged in a QPQ, and defeated dems scrambling to salvage the narrative by accusing the administration of altering call transcripts doesn’t count.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:54 am to
quote:

btw the former president decided to try to keep power after he lost.

How?



watch the Jan 6 committee hearings.
his staff and legal team were witnesses.
you will see how.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70165 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:55 am to
quote:

1. hunter biden is a relative of the potus.


That included his dad in his illegal business deals with foreign adversaries.

Joe is now compromised by china, ukraine, among others.

That is a HUGE deal
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57897 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:55 am to
quote:

1. hunter biden is a relative of the potus.

quote:

one is the actual.


That's not actually the point (despite the focus on Don Jr. during the Trump administration). The point is that Hunter's data contains more than enough evidence for at least an investigation into Joe actively using his office as VP to enrich himself and his family and possibly committing pedophilic crimes.

This potential evidence has been in the hands of the DOJ for years (in the laptop) and not only did they not investigate it, but when news of it broke they claimed it was Russian disinformation.

This is the same DOJ which actively pursued the Steele Dossier as fact (ie: without researching it) while also knowing it had come directly from the Clinton campaign. This is also the same DOJ which lied on FISA warrants and barely slapped the hands of those who did so.

In other words, try again.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6114 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:55 am to
The raid was not about getting dirt on Trump, it was to take back the dirt that Trump had on the Swamp.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1767 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:55 am to
How about you just tell us, since its so clear...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46091 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:56 am to
Witnesses to what?

Be specific.
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