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Why is it that the right way, thing or path just happens to be our view
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:17 pm
No matter if we are talking about our views on politics, religion, morals, ethics, science, etc. we somehow feel we are right about the views we hold on all of these?
It doesn’t matter if many hold contrary views, we still think ours are right. This is particularly puzzling if we come from a position of no moral absolutes. Everyone can’t be right.
It doesn’t matter if many hold contrary views, we still think ours are right. This is particularly puzzling if we come from a position of no moral absolutes. Everyone can’t be right.
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:22 pm to Revelator
There are moral absolutes and when you are on the right side of them you can be confident
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:23 pm to Revelator
How are you so sure that your way is the right way?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:27 pm to Revelator
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This is particularly puzzling if we come from a position of no moral absolutes.
I can say with absolute certainty that there are no absolutes. And anyone who says there are absolutes is wrong.
I exclude sexism, racism, transphobia and homophobia which are always wrong.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:28 pm to Revelator
Litmus tests. If soros is for it, it’s bad. If “the view” promotes it, it’s bad. If a career politician proposes it, it’s bad. If it involves taking from those that have and giving to those that don’t have, it’s bad. If it erodes my culture, it’s bad. If it’s obviously unconstitutional, it’s bad. If it promotes the WEF, UN, NATO, etc, it’s bad.
You see…it’s not that difficult.
You see…it’s not that difficult.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:30 pm to the808bass
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anyone who says there are absolutes is wrong.
I exclude sexism, racism, transphobia and homophobia which are always wrong.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:30 pm to sta4ever
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How are you so sure that your way is the right way?
That’s the question isn’t it
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:31 pm to sta4ever
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How are you so sure that your way is the right way?
One rule of thumb for me is that if it’s just “my way,” it’s very likely wrong.
If it’s based on the overwhelming majority of human history and great thinkers of years gone by, it has substantially more likelihood of being correct.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:35 pm to sta4ever
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How are you so sure that your way is the right way?
I think one of the surest ways to know if one is right about a particular thing is to study history. If the thing in question has been tried numerous times before and failed, it’s a good indication it’s flawed.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:45 pm to the808bass
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I exclude sexism, racism, transphobia and homophobia which are always wrong.
You’re on some shaky ground here. I bet I could paint a few scenarios to illustrate my point. I would say however the closest of your list you are to having an absolute wrong is racism.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:45 pm to Crimson1st
Yeah. It was satire.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
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I can say with absolute certainty that there are no absolutes.
I hope this is clever irony.
Otherwise it’s just hilariously, self-refuting.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:48 pm to Revelator
Yep and it looks like I misread what you said. I was taking what you said in a different way, but it’s something I ask myself all the time. I think studying history is a huge part of it, and also just having an open mind. You don’t have to agree on certain things, but you can try to understand where people are coming from. I think if you’re able to do those things, then you can be confident in what you believe in, and then it just kind of turns into faith. We’ll never really know all the answers, and what is the right way or truth, but I think people need to understand that that’s ok. It’s just the way it is, and you just have to do you. All comes down to faith I guess. And it may seem like I’m talking about religion, but this covers anything, from religion to political beliefs.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:53 pm to Revelator
I roll with everything I say that’s not related to my own profession or not otherwise some other particular area that I’ve somehow got an “advanced” level of experience or training/skill - besides that stuff, I readily acknowledge that anything else is pure opinion. Everyone would be better off for it if they literally included “JMO” or the like to each and every one of their posts that don’t fall within the aforementioned description.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:57 pm to Revelator
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our views on politics, religion, morals, ethics, science, etc
1. Politics. In my life I've always been right when debating it IRL except once. My freshman year of college a dorm mate named Jeff Dael convinced me that small 'l' libertarian was superior. So, I changed my mind.
2. Religion. No one knows. That's why the word 'faith' is used.
3. Morals. While dating during the 3 years between marriages I was called 'old fashioned'. I think that means 'moral.'
4. Ethics. Simple: When you wish to do something wrong and know you can get away with it, but you don't do it because it is wrong.
5. Science. The key is personal research and distrusting agencies.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:59 pm to davyjones
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Everyone would be better off for it if they literally included “JMO” or the like to each and every one of their posts that don’t fall within the aforementioned description.
I know from my own life that my thoughts on certain issues have evolved, some radically. But, at that time, I confidently and sincerely thought I was right, yet later, I still think I’m right about the same topic which I now hold a contradictory view. Is that simply confirmation bias? Is this uncommon?
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:07 pm to Revelator
I think there’s no substitute for life experience, over time you just have the opportunities to perceive more angles on things and then apply that to the overall thought process. That’s been my experience anyway. And of course I’m still learning, always til the end.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:08 pm to Revelator
Ideology that sees only certainty of truth. Whatever is an idealistic view,can become irrational,and fanatical. Once that takes place,objective thinking,and reason become obstacles that are subverted, and cast aside. History can tell you what comes next. Nothing good!
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:43 pm to Zach
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Religion. No one knows. That's why the word 'faith' is used.
Surely, If one believes God to be all powerful and all knowing, he would also believe God was capable of making his absolute truth known to men ?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:46 pm to NashvilleTider
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There are moral absolutes and when you are on the right side of them you can be confident
My OP stems from my dealings with those who adhere to Calvinistic beliefs and who conveniently always belong to the elect, who they say were predestined to salvation. I’ve never met a Calvinist who doesn’t think he is one of the elect.
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