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re: LIV Players file a Anti-Trust suit against the Tour

Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:26 pm to
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You probably never served a minute in your life.


Dude, I still work at chili's. Been serving for years
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:27 pm to
Link to Blue & Silver courses.

LINK
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15286 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:27 pm to
. Young, fit, rich and still posting on TD after 9:00? I would have thought you would be out picking your prize for the night. What a clown.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:28 pm to
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Young, fit, rich and still posting on TD after 9:00? I would have thought you would be out picking your prize for the night. What a clown.


Im not big on Friday nights. Like to get up and get an early session done at the gym.

And young people don't do shite until like 10 anyway. People still eating din Brah

Edit: also never said rich, I said more money than the school nurse that gets the Sped kids to color in the lines
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4470 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:53 pm to


A lot of people eat dinner together. It’s a social outing. I’d say try it but family doesn’t count bru.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:56 pm to
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A lot of people eat dinner together. It’s a social outing


I understand, he asked why I didn't have my broad lined up to take home at 9pm like it was the end of the night.

U shud lern too Reed gud
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
2948 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:59 pm to
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Dude, I still work at chili's


Then what's the secret to the skillet queso... That's shits fiya .
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9291 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:19 pm to
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what's the secret to the skillet queso... That's shits fiya


Use to be Chili, not sure if that's still the case.

I use to eat twice a week at the Original Chili's in Dallas.

Never dreamed it would become a national chain.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8085 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:42 am to
LIV will win this lawsuit.

Not sure how its even debatable as far as the Anti-trust issues.

I'll bet money LIV wins.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15286 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:13 am to
They probably will due to judge shipping. However, in the end they will lose in my opinion. They will get the injunction.
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:05 am to
Every other sport the pro's get paid. Football teams can go 0- for eternity and the players would still get paid.

Why should golf be different?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15286 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:07 am to
Are they employees? Do they want to be employees?

BTW, I think a minimum should be payed to those that miss the cut. I don’t they should go broke trying to figure it out, but I don’t think they should make a living missing the cut either. However, this may open them up to more control from the tour.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 11:12 am
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8659 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:32 am to
Simple analogy, professional golfers work on full commission. Any of you guys in sales and on full commission? When's the last time you made a call but didn't get the sale but your company paid you just for trying? Yep, that's not the way it works. No sale, no pay.

Making the cut is the same thing. Not making the cut is like not making the sale. Move on to the next call (next tournament) and make the sale (the cut).

I don't feel sorry for any professional golfer. This is the profession they've chosen. If you're not good enough to make it on tour then there are plenty of other jobs in the golf industry.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 11:33 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
15286 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:48 am to
I fully understand your point. I probably shouldn’t have used the word should. I should have said I would be open to the idea of minimums. It really isn’t up to anybody us though.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3386 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Every other sport the pro's get paid. Football teams can go 0- for eternity and the players would still get paid.

Why should golf be different?



You don't qualify in Nascar... All you get is the opportunity to try next week
(And you pay an entry fee to try)... Presuming enough cars for a full field
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:31 pm to
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Simple analogy, professional golfers work on full commission. Any of you guys in sales and on full commission? When's the last time you made a call but didn't get the sale but your company paid you just for trying? Yep, that's not the way it works. No sale, no pay


Lots of people can do sales, not a lot of people can be the best golfers in the world. When you have hard to aquire skills you have more bargaining power, it's very simple. It seems to be moving that players want minimums, you can't really replace the players so you either acquiesce or take a chance that your product sucks.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9291 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:29 pm to
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Every other sport the pro's get paid. Football teams can go 0- for eternity and the players would still get paid.


Why should golf be different?



Apple to Oranges...


Pro's in football, baseball and basketball are required to play in every game. They are employees of the organization.

Pro Golfers are only required to play 15 times.

They have the freedom to choose when and where they play.

99.9 % of Tour players have a great life. They win a tournament they get a 2 year exemption. Win a major and its 5 years.

Between the Korn Ferry, the Tour and the Senior Tour, a decent player can play most of his adult life.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3386 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Lots of people can do sales, not a lot of people can be the best golfers in the world. When you have hard to aquire skills you have more bargaining power, it's very simple. It seems to be moving that players want minimums


Ehh.. Lots of people can golf. But the elite in each ( and in pretty much any occupation) have leverage. But that's the point that's been presented here several times.. The PGA tour has no contracts with players and if things were to get bad enough...Rory JT Jon Rham et al could have a functioning new tour in 6 to 8 months ( and smaller made for TV events sooner) but more easily... Get the changes the collective of players want instituted out of PVB. But I do imagine a cut pool will be implemented with a annual cap ( meaning you aren't making 250k for missing 25 cuts) and there being some differential for past champions vs journeymen. ( Meaning more people are there to see Morikawa than John journeyman and if both miss the cut then there should be compensation accordingly. I think there will also be change to the year end social media payout. That's all going to be the Tiger annuity for several years so I would expect some tie to min events or FedEx points
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9291 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:22 pm to
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Lots of people can do sales,


Not a lot do it well.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Ehh.. Lots of people can golf. But the elite in each ( and in pretty much any occupation) have leverage


There's maybe (huge emphasis on maybe) 500 people men in the world that people want to watch play golf. There's millions of salesman
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