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re: LIV Players file a Anti-Trust suit against the Tour

Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 1:39 pm to
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As dumb as you think the Commissioner is...I still don't think he would be that dumb
If there are those documents..


Lot of faith on a dude that has shown his incompetence every step of the way
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31980 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:23 pm to
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The Constitution once said that black peoples vote only counted as 3/5 of a white person.



That’s not what the 3/5 compromise is. It says that for every slave in a state that state gets to count them as 3/5 of a person for population towards representation in government. It has nothing to do with black people voting and it’s actually still in the constitution.

Free history lesson for you
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9209 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:30 pm to
The Tour has every right to defend its franchise, its sponsors and their players in good standing.

The monopoly angle is silly. Players from the U.S. are playing in other Tours worldwide .

PGA Tour events pump a lot of money in local economies and charities.

I helped sponsor local Pro's and my Company sponsored players and as Tournament main sponsor. We sponsored Pro-Am's and great organizations like Make-A-Wish.

I have found that the PGA is very well run and are very professional to deal with in my interactions with Officals.

One of the most important things that they have done is to eliminate the Q School and make the Korn Ferry Tour a stepping stone to the Tour and earning a card.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:42 pm to
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That’s not what the 3/5 compromise is. It says that for every slave in a state that state gets to count them as 3/5 of a person for population towards representation in government. It has nothing to do with black people voting and it’s actually still in the constitution.

Free history lesson for you


First thing I thought of, Mingo regrets the error. Point remains
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:44 pm to
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The Tour has every right to defend its franchise, its sponsors and their players in good standing.


Of course, but they don't have the right to be anti competitive. Are they? I'm not sure, I'm not privy to enough information and it's not my area of expertise.

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The monopoly angle is silly. Players from the U.S. are playing in other Tours worldwide .


Congrats on not knowing how monopolies work. It won't stop you from spewing a bunch of rambling nonsense as you've shown time and time again.

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PGA Tour events pump a lot of money in local economies and charities.

I helped sponsor local Pro's and my Company sponsored players and as Tournament main sponsor. We sponsored Pro-Am's and great organizations like Make-A-Wish.

I have found that the PGA is very well run and are very professional to deal with in my interactions with Officals.

One of the most important things that they have done is to eliminate the Q School and make the Korn Ferry Tour a stepping stone to the Tour and earning a card.


None of that matters in the least to an anti trust court.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9209 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:01 pm to
Sure it does. I'm sure that the Tour will have many Players and others testify of its behalf.

The PGA Tour legal team is ready for the battle.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Sure it does. I'm sure that the Tour will have many Players and others testify of its behalf.


Good luck to them if their defense is they give money to Make a Wish

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The PGA Tour legal team is ready for the battle.


Pretty big assumption considering their track record to this point.


Maybe they'll win, no one on this board knows, but your contention that people going up and giving son stories about giving to the first tee ain't going to be the reason why. In fact, that arguement is moronic
Posted by Shankapotamous
Member since Dec 2014
299 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:15 pm to
One of the most important things that they have done is to eliminate the Q School and make the Korn Ferry Tour a stepping stone to the Tour and earning a card.

All the did was eliminate Q school graduates going straight to the tour, now they go to the FF tour. It still costs around 5K to try Q school.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2098 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:27 pm to
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The Tour has every right to defend its franchise, its sponsors and their players in good standing


Sort of. But the most interesting part, at least to me, of this whole thing is the PGA Tour is not a business, it’s not an LLC, it’s not part of a franchise, it’s a charity.

Charities aren’t supposed to be making any decisions based on ‘competition in their market’. There is no ‘market’ for a charity. There are nothing more than events/donors that raise money for their ultimate cause.

The United Way isn’t blocking their independent contractors from working for The Red Cross due to competitive reasons.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9209 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:33 pm to
Nice the way that you cherry pick comments.

Why should LIV win a judgement ?

The PGA Commissioner didn't make a move without the Player Policy Board approval.

Basically the LIV Players own peers banned them.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:40 pm to
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Why should LIV win a judgement ?


Im not sure they should. But in my opinion they will probably get an injunction until a ruling is made.

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Basically the LIV Players own peers banned them.




I don't know why you can't get it through your thick, seemingly empty, skull that just because they do something that doesn't make it legal
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9209 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:45 pm to
Always hurling the insults.

To answer, the ban didn't make it illegal either.

Especially when a lot of LIV guys resigned.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:53 pm to
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To answer, the ban didn't make it illegal either


The court will be deciding that shortly it seems. Until then, the suspended players will likely recieve an injunction.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6409 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:54 pm to
The lawsuit also brings in Augusta. The chairman told players not to play in LIV events. They are just putting together a bunch of stuff and hope something sticks.
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
4387 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:59 pm to
I hope LIV players cash in even more now. frick Monahan and his dictatorship views. PGA Tour needs to learn a lesson for promoting such a chode bag.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9209 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:01 pm to
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe The Masters is still an invitational.

Now they offer spots to recent tour winners and the top 50 money list as a guideline.

But as a private entity, they can un-invite any players they choose.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong,


When people try to do that you whine like a woman and say you are going to quit the site.

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The Masters is still an invitational.

Now they offer spots to recent tour winners and the top 50 money list as a guideline.

But as a private entity, they can un-invite any players they choose.


It's not nearly that simple, but sure
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8856 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:20 pm to
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe The Masters is still an invitational.

Now they offer spots to recent tour winners and the top 50 money list as a guideline.

But as a private entity, they can un-invite any players they choose.


That's the way I see it too and I hope that is what they do. The LIV players wanted an easier schedule and more money. Let them have that, while crying why they can't play at the Masters anymore.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:27 pm to
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That's the way I see it too and I hope that is what they do.


You've also never read a court case before or understand anything more complicated than 2+2
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6409 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:29 pm to
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A document can say whatever the frick it wants. That doesn't make it legal or enforceable. You don't know what the hell you're talking about so just shut up


So you’re a lawyer/plus handicap/pga player.

Got it! Thanks.
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