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re: Why don’t people know SCOTUS Roe vs Wade reversal is NOT about abortion rights?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:44 am to GRTiger
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:44 am to GRTiger
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The guy who said this is fuming mad that the federal government was found to lack the power to positively grant the right to abortion.
Exactly. He’s mad that the federal govt is no longer regulating abortions.
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:46 am to sabes que
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claim that Dems favor open borders
because they do
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:51 am to Klark Kent
Way to leave out the important part of the post. He says that Democrats want to play Eugenics and eradicate poor people through abortion , but they also favor bringing over poor minorities for the votes. The two make zero sense.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:52 am to sabes que
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. He says that Democrats want to play Eugenics and eradicate poor people through abortion , but they also favor bringing over poor minorities for the votes. The two make zero sense.
Babies don't vote dumbass. Dependent poor adults do.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
Non citizens can’t vote either.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:54 am to sabes que
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Non citizens can’t vote either.
This isn’t due to a lack of Democrat efforts seeking to allow it.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:55 am to sabes que
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Non citizens can’t vote either.
Wrong. They can't vote in federal elections (legally) but many can in local and state elections.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:01 pm to TBoy
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It is a power of the people.
Not if there is a state law against it!
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:If it was, they’d have banned abortion at the federal level.
It’s not?
Instead Roe v Wade was ruled an unconstitutional overreach. 10th amendment: powers not expressly granted to the federal government nor prohibited by the constitution are left up to the individual states. Nowhere in the constitution is abortion mentioned, so according to the 10th amendment its an issue that each state should be free to allow or restrict as they see fit
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Also babies that would have been aborted are way more likely to be all of the things you stated Democrats want, dependent, poor, etc.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:06 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Instead Roe v Wade was ruled an unconstitutional overreach. 10th amendment: powers not expressly granted to the federal government nor prohibited by the constitution are left up to the individual states. Nowhere in the constitution is abortion mentioned, so according to the 10th amendment its an issue that each state should be free to allow or restrict as they see fit
Do you believe that Americans have protected rights that are only specifically listed in the Constitution?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:08 pm to sabes que
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Also babies that would have been aborted are way more likely to be all of the things you stated Democrats want, dependent, poor, etc.
But you have to wait 18 years before they can vote for you.
You're dumb. You didn't even know illegals could vote
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Well democrats have been pro abortion for like 60 years, so if their goal with abortion is to eradicate the poor and play Eugenics, then that’s not very smart if they also are dependent on poor, desperate people.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:32 pm to sabes que
Some leftist opinions on Roe v Wade throughout the years.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice): "The political process was moving in the early 1970 ...not swiftly enough for advocates for quick, complete change, but majoritarian institutions were listening and acting. (Roe’s) heavy-handed judicial intervention was difficult to justify and appears to have provoked, not resolved, conflict."
Edward Lazarus (attorney, clerk to Roe-author Justice Harry Blackmun): “As a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method, Roe borders on the indefensible. I say this as someone utterly committed to the right to choose, as someone who believes such a right has grounding elsewhere in the Constitution instead of where Roe placed it, and as someone who loved Roe’s author like a grandfather. ...(Roe) has little connection to the constitutional right it purportedly interpreted."
Jeffrey Rosen (Legal Affairs Editor, The New Republic): “In short, 30 years later, it seems increasingly clear that this pro-choice magazine was correct in 1973 when it criticized Roe on constitutional grounds. Its overturning would be the best thing that could happen to the federal judiciary, the pro-choice movement and the moderate majority of the American people."
Michael Kinsley (Opinion editor, Los Angeles Times; co-host of Crossfire): “Although I am pro-choice, I was taught in law school, and still believe, that Roe v. Wade is a muddle of bad reasoning and an authentic example of judicial overreaching. I also believe it was a political disaster for liberals. Roe is what first politicized religious conservatives while cutting off a political process that was legalizing abortion state by state anyway. Three decades later, that awakened giant controls the government.”
John Hart Ely (law professor; Yale, Harvard, Stanford; clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren): “(Roe) is, nevertheless, a very bad decision. Not because it will perceptibly weaken the Court — it won’t; and not because it conflicts with either my idea of progress or what the evidence suggests is society’s — it doesn’t. It is bad because it is bad constitutional law, or rather because it is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be.”
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court Justice): "The political process was moving in the early 1970 ...not swiftly enough for advocates for quick, complete change, but majoritarian institutions were listening and acting. (Roe’s) heavy-handed judicial intervention was difficult to justify and appears to have provoked, not resolved, conflict."
Edward Lazarus (attorney, clerk to Roe-author Justice Harry Blackmun): “As a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method, Roe borders on the indefensible. I say this as someone utterly committed to the right to choose, as someone who believes such a right has grounding elsewhere in the Constitution instead of where Roe placed it, and as someone who loved Roe’s author like a grandfather. ...(Roe) has little connection to the constitutional right it purportedly interpreted."
Jeffrey Rosen (Legal Affairs Editor, The New Republic): “In short, 30 years later, it seems increasingly clear that this pro-choice magazine was correct in 1973 when it criticized Roe on constitutional grounds. Its overturning would be the best thing that could happen to the federal judiciary, the pro-choice movement and the moderate majority of the American people."
Michael Kinsley (Opinion editor, Los Angeles Times; co-host of Crossfire): “Although I am pro-choice, I was taught in law school, and still believe, that Roe v. Wade is a muddle of bad reasoning and an authentic example of judicial overreaching. I also believe it was a political disaster for liberals. Roe is what first politicized religious conservatives while cutting off a political process that was legalizing abortion state by state anyway. Three decades later, that awakened giant controls the government.”
John Hart Ely (law professor; Yale, Harvard, Stanford; clerked for Chief Justice Earl Warren): “(Roe) is, nevertheless, a very bad decision. Not because it will perceptibly weaken the Court — it won’t; and not because it conflicts with either my idea of progress or what the evidence suggests is society’s — it doesn’t. It is bad because it is bad constitutional law, or rather because it is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be.”
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:39 pm to McLemore
quote:I know.
We’re talking semantics here ultimately.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:44 pm to KLSU
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Why don’t people know SCOTUS Roe vs Wade reversal is NOT about abortion rights?
Lol that’s literally what it’s about.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:46 pm to KLSU
“I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live” (Deuteronomy 30:19)
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:48 pm to member12
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Roe is what first politicized religious conservatives while cutting off a political process that was legalizing abortion state by state anyway. Three decades later, that awakened giant controls the government.”
Might be sage advice in regards to marijuana legalization.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:51 pm to KLSU
Liberals want everything in federal court. They want to force their agenda on everyone because they are self righteous assholes convinced they are always right.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:53 pm to Dawgholio
correct. quite a few in this thread
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