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2A doesn't give us the right to bear arms.

Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16942 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:36 pm
The 2nd Amendment says the the government CAN NOT INFRINGE on our rights to bear arms.

This Law will be unconstitutional the day it passes.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10254 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:39 pm to
I'm pro gun but "infringe" does not mean no (however you define) reasonable restrictions.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21965 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:40 pm to
Yes, it's a right we already have. It's just recognizing that right. Any government that doesn't recognize our rights isn't legitimate.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:48 pm to
Everybody with 1/2 a brain knows red flag laws will be abused, possibly in wholesale fashion at some point in time.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
6194 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 6:53 pm to
Our "GOD given rights" are not fully appreciated by our Godless government.

Almost time for a strong GOD inspired reminder!
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15118 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

The 2nd Amendment says the the government CAN NOT INFRINGE on our rights to bear arms.

This Law will be unconstitutional the day it passes.

They started infringing on our right to bear arms a long time ago. See National Firearms Act of 1934, Gun Control Act of 1968, & Firearms Owners' Protection Act of 1986.

An American used to be able to own ships with cannons if the wanted (which was the most powerful weapon at that time), yet now we can't own a sawed off shotgun without having to register it with the ATF and paying a special tax on it.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5543 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:23 pm to
Just to play devils advocate, y’all realize even Scalia in Heller held that the 2A is not beyond reasonable restriction and cited laws against felons having firearms.

Do y’all think laws against felons having firearms is unconstitutional as well? Because if you don’t think a felon should have a gun then you can’t argue ANY restriction is unconstitutional.

I’m pro 2A and don’t like most of this new bill but I also don’t think a felon should have a gun thus I can’t honestly say any and all restrictions on gun ownership is per se unconstitutional
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 7:25 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24866 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:36 pm to
I am curious, would it be unconstitutional if they raise the age to 21?

This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 7:37 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25357 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident...all men are... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men."

quote:

Our Declaration of Independence acknowledges a Creator as the source of the unalienable rights that governments are formed to secure. This acknowledgement was the very foundation of the Constitution of the United States of America. What are those unalienable rights with which we are endowed? They may be described in many ways, but English jurist Sir William Blackstone wrote in 1766, "these may be reduced to three principal articles:

the right of personal security (life);

the right of personal liberty; and,

the right of private property.."

America's written Constitution was to protect and secure God-given individual rights to life, liberty, and property. If we ever allow this foundation to be eroded and lose faith that these rights are a gift directly from GOD to each individual, then we lose the basis of the greatness of the miracle of America.

The Second Amendment is our sole guarantee that our government cannot expunge this inherent right. Unfortunately, our (s)elected "representation" has been allowing this right to be infringed upon for a century now.

It has already been trampled. Only a matter of time before it's completely erased.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36264 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:00 pm to
One side says “can not infringe” the other says “well regulated”, and both are wrong.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:17 pm to
Our rights are God given. We allow them to be taken away. Because we are bitches.
Posted by Tazzzzz2349
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
97 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:16 pm to
At any point we the ppl agree to any restrictions on the 2nd we , as a country, are doomed….
Buy more guns & ammo now!!!
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 12:44 am to
We are worried about the wrong stuff. Bail reform and eliminating Soros-paid DA’s like gascon are the problems. Lock an illegal gun owner up, let him out an hour later.

Guns have nothing to do with our issues.

Human beings love to pretend that we, ourselves, can never be to blame for anything. Where does that sound familiar? Potato President?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26893 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 6:01 am to
I'm pro gun but believe the left should be disarmed, and then stripped of the first amendment too.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:23 am to
I love how these threads draw the same people who try to break down the "absolutism" of 2A, but will magically find the "absolutism" of abortion and gay marriage in The(*) Constitution.

(*) Do I need to send Ohio state some money for using this term?
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