- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Editorial: What Biden Is Getting Wrong About Big Oil’s Profits
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:15 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:15 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
If you want to know how we end up with bad energy policies, it’s because too many politicians are fricking stupid
FIFY
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:17 pm to mindbreaker
quote:
I love the report of "losses" thing these companies do. that's some magic accounting there. Hey last quarter we projected we would make 5 billion. Well we only made 4.8 billion so we had a loss of 200 mil. I swear we are struggling.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:17 pm to mindbreaker
quote:
I love the report of "losses" thing these companies do. that's some magic accounting there. Hey last quarter we projected we would make 5 billion. Well we only made 4.8 billion so we had a loss of 200 mil. I swear we are struggling.
You seriously think this is how it works? Please tell me you're trolling.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:20 pm to mindbreaker
Congratulations, you are a retard.
When companies report an earnings "miss" that is when their profits falls below targets. When they report a "loss" its because THEY ACTUALLY frickING EARNED LESS MONEY THAN THEY SPENT. Every domestic O&G company reported actual losses, some as high as $20 billion in 2021 and during COVID. You are now only 1% less retarded than you were when you made that post.
You're welcome.
When companies report an earnings "miss" that is when their profits falls below targets. When they report a "loss" its because THEY ACTUALLY frickING EARNED LESS MONEY THAN THEY SPENT. Every domestic O&G company reported actual losses, some as high as $20 billion in 2021 and during COVID. You are now only 1% less retarded than you were when you made that post.
You're welcome.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:20 pm to lsu777
Another point that gets lost in some of this, two other scenarios that have allowed oil & gas companies to make more:
1- Decisions by companies like BP and Shell to divest of more and more “dirty energy” assets…someone had to gobble that up.
2- Quite a few E&Ps folded or cashed out in 2020, so someone had to take that on.
Those still existing Permian shale operators like XTO (Exxon), Chevron, OXY, Pioneer, etc are making more because they now have more market share.
1- Decisions by companies like BP and Shell to divest of more and more “dirty energy” assets…someone had to gobble that up.
2- Quite a few E&Ps folded or cashed out in 2020, so someone had to take that on.
Those still existing Permian shale operators like XTO (Exxon), Chevron, OXY, Pioneer, etc are making more because they now have more market share.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:21 pm to lsugradman
It's always funny when our resident proggies try to flex and fall flat on their faces.
Magilda this morning, now mindbreaker.
Magilda this morning, now mindbreaker.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:22 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
What Biden Is Getting Wrong
Everything
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:22 pm to lsu777
quote:
if exxon made more money than god...then how much did the federal govenment take in?
Politicians think they are GOD and the Fed .gov is who they are talking about.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:23 pm to ragincajun03
Ehh this had more to do with COVID crushing demand and O&G companies having to get much leaner, shedding employees and lower performing assets. Now demand has rebounded much faster than supply and other geopolitical issues have further constrained supply. Combine lean producers with a supply/demand/inventory imbalance and you will undoubtedly get huge profits on top of that.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:25 pm to lsugradman
quote:
THEY ACTUALLY frickING EARNED LESS MONEY THAN THEY SPENT. Every domestic O&G company reported actual losses, some as high as $20 billion in 2021
Oh really
A big chunk of the company’s losses came from $19.3 billion in write-downs in the last three months of the year as the company marked down the value of U.S. natural gas fields acquired when gas prices were far higher before fracking flooded the market a decade ago.
LINK
Hey some of our property lost value. we had losses. we don't have to pay taxes now. Yay capitalism. You get a lay off you get a lay off and you get a lay off.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:31 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
Another point that gets lost in some of this, two other scenarios that have allowed oil & gas companies to make more:
1- Decisions by companies like BP and Shell to divest of more and more “dirty energy” assets…someone had to gobble that up.
2- Quite a few E&Ps folded or cashed out in 2020, so someone had to take that on.
Those still existing Permian shale operators like XTO (Exxon), Chevron, OXY, Pioneer, etc are making more because they now have more market share
3 - possibly to a lesser extent, but still mention worthy:
the O&G corporations got hit hard in 2020/2021 during the pandemic. Most of the majors went through massive efforts to become more lean. Layoffs, selling assets, shutting down offices, canceling all travel, nixing recruiting and hiring completely, and pinching everywhere they could to decrease the cost of operations to maintain a profit once the market stabilized. And I assure you they haven’t exactly loosened to purse strings since nor are they now. So yeah, when you are forced overnight to become as lean as possible and WTI prices explode….your profits do look pretty good compared to years past.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:31 pm to lsugradman
Agree, but those other two factors are a contributor as well. Less operators owning more assets, and now we’re at these oil prices, shale players who weathered the Covid storm and didn’t bow out of domestic fossil fuel production are in a prime position.
And hell, why shouldn’t their employee who also stuck it out and helped keep thing running during that time not benefit financially from it, especially if they had to take heavy salary cuts two years ago.
So much envy and hate towards the industry and its workers from a segment of the political spectrum that knows nothing about that sector.
And hell, why shouldn’t their employee who also stuck it out and helped keep thing running during that time not benefit financially from it, especially if they had to take heavy salary cuts two years ago.
So much envy and hate towards the industry and its workers from a segment of the political spectrum that knows nothing about that sector.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:34 pm to Klark Kent
That’s the point lsugradman made above, and it’s likely not a “lesser extent” than the points I made as well.
All that stuff the Biden Administration and media can’t comprehend.
All that stuff the Biden Administration and media can’t comprehend.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:37 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
And hell, why shouldn’t their employee who also stuck it out and helped keep thing running during that time not benefit financially from it, especially if they had to take heavy salary cuts two years ago.
it got ugly.
401k matches were paused and employees were asked to voluntarily take temporary pay cuts.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:39 pm to mindbreaker
Oh wait so you are now changing your view that a loss is an actual loss not an earnings miss? But write-downs are actual losses. The value of a commodity is substantially less to the point of non-recovery. So something you spent money on will not be able to provide revenue. Thats a loss no matter how you want to spin it.
And yes layoffs happened. Thousands of really strong employees lost their jobs, their companies loss billions. Yet you are your crew insist that those companies "control prices " and "price gouge"? Explain that to me numbnuts.
And yes layoffs happened. Thousands of really strong employees lost their jobs, their companies loss billions. Yet you are your crew insist that those companies "control prices " and "price gouge"? Explain that to me numbnuts.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:43 pm to Klark Kent
quote:
401k matches were paused and employees were asked to voluntarily take temporary pay cuts.
Damn what upside down company you work for?
Zero layoffs and still got 97% of target bonus for 2020 over here
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:44 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Damn what upside down company you work for?
Zero layoffs and still got 97% of target bonus for 2020 over here
then you are lying or don't work for an O&G major and your point is mute.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:47 pm to ragincajun03
quote:
If you want to know how we end up with bad energy policies, it’s because too many politicians believe things that aren’t true.
It isn't that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's just that they know so much. that isn't so! Ronald Reagan
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:48 pm to Klark Kent
Well what do you consider major?
Mine is in the top 10 in the US.
Also it's moot.
Mine is in the top 10 in the US.
Also it's moot.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 12:50 pm to lsugradman
quote:
Explain that to me numbnuts.
he cant because he doesnt understand economics
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News