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re: Got the jab? Hmmm. You may have trouble with your fertility if you got the Pfizer needle

Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:35 am to
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 7:35 am to
#Pureblood Life
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
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Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:02 am to
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Lower fertility=lower population which helps the economy with supply chain issues and fewer jobs. LGB!


Maybe that's why they aren't vaccinating the illegal aliens crossing the border. We need the labor force to grow?
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:13 am to
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Have you seen the price of a vasectomy lately?


Mine was $349 with insurance, would have been $850 without insurance. Much cheaper than raising another child
Posted by DarthRebel
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:16 am to
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"The study wrote that while “no significant change” in sperm concentration or motility was found at T1 (15 to 45 days post injection), the sperm concentration was “significantly lower” in samples taken at testing period T2."


Well duh. Sperm live for a long time in the body and have an isolated home, so the vaccine would have to find the door to the testicles and actively kill them.

Producing less sperm is very problematic. You would think the Pfizer snake oil has to have altered hormonal production in body.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:26 am to
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"The study wrote that while “no significant change” in sperm concentration or motility was found at T1 (15 to 45 days post injection), the sperm concentration was “significantly lower” in samples taken at testing period T2."


But also

"T3 evaluation demonstrated overall recovery. Semen volume and sperm motility were not impaired."

Your sperm concentration will decrease with any illness or immune response, so I don't find this particularly surprising. In one study worse following covid-19 infection: LINK /
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:28 am to
Yeah exactly. This just like the heart issues. The immune response to viruses creates side effects and you see this both in direct biological recovery from viral infection as well as preventative steps forcing the immune response prior to infection.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:29 am to
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You would think the Pfizer snake oil has to have altered hormonal production in body.


Viruses and immune responses to them have a fairly well-understood impact on short-term sperm quality metrics.

LINK
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:29 am to
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The immune response to viruses creates side effects and you see this both in direct biological recovery from viral infection as well as preventative steps forcing the immune response prior to infection.


And it's sort of a crap shoot how your body reacts to either.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:31 am to
Unbelievable this could happen when oligarchs promoting the vax are also really really concerned about global overpopulation. Must be more misinformation. No wonder we need a ministry of truth. Dont ask questions. Just get in line and do what they say.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:32 am to
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The study said there was recovery in sperm amounts in T3, which, again, mimics CV19 infection.


Are we supposed to get Covid every 3 months or get the booster every 3 months

Who is more likely to have fertility issues, an unvaccinated extremist who had Covid twice over the last 3 years, or the by the book citizen the government wants who is on his 6th booster and also had Covid 2x.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:35 am to
I feel like there is going to be a chicken/egg argument going on the next decade about whether adverse effects are from the virus or vax. And it's going to be difficult to know what to believe. The funny thing is, I am not necessarily swayed by the anti COVID vax physicians like Malone, Zelenko, etc. But, then I see what were formerly reasonable liberal journalist types like Naomi Wolf and James Kunstler (Clusterfrick Nation) say the vax is killing and hurting people and it makes me think WTF. Maybe we do need a disinfo board.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:36 am to
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Who is more likely to have fertility issues, an unvaccinated extremist who had Covid twice over the last 3 years, or the by the book citizen the government wants who is on his 6th booster and also had Covid 2x.

I'm not advocating anyone get vaccines or boosters at this point unless you're in specific populations. Covid is over and mild now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:39 am to
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I feel like there is going to be a chicken/egg argument going on the next decade about whether adverse effects are from the virus or vax. And it's going to be difficult to know what to believe.

It's going to be both. It's the response to the virus that causes these issues and the issues occur regardless of what created that response.

The vax didn't do what it was supposed to do (prohibit infection), but it did seem to make infections milder. However, actual infections were already mild in some people so it's a roll of the dice. Also, I think now we know that most of the really bad cases that led to death weren't from covid directly but from our body's reception (the "cytokine storm").
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:41 am to
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You need to update your subject.


Yea, but phizer’s own documents said the vaccine effectiveness lasted about 85 days, so maybe it was for that time period. Maybe if you kept taking shots every 90 days you could have a very hard time procreating
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:43 am to
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Maybe if you kept taking shots every 90 days you could have a very hard time procreating

That would not shock me
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:44 am to
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the808bass


Where vis the slight improvement from T2-T3?

asking because what I see is a bit of Fauci science.

concentration
T1 -14.5%
T2 -15.4%
T3 -15.9% looks like a constant drop

motility
T1 2.7
T2 -1.9
T3 -4.1 same constant drop

tmc
T1 -2%
T2 -22.1%
T3 -19.4% <<<<< doesn't jive with above numbers

I guess the word salad of note 1( percentage change vs. absolute change) is what clears the numbers up, LOL.

or maybe too much absolute vodka


Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83239 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:48 am to
Aaron Rodgers got mocked and ridiculed for saying it was part of the reason he hadn't gotten the cuck jab
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:49 am to
You people should really read the damn studies.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:49 am to
SFP you def bent the knee
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