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re: The Instapot, revisited

Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by shaneomac1
Birmingham.al
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 2:48 pm to
do tell this spaghetti in the instapot trick!
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:18 pm to
Has it replaced your slow cooker, for those of you who have the instant pot? Does it produce the same tasty food a slow cooker will?

How are its advanced features, like sear and low temperature cooking modes?
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:37 pm to
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How are its advanced features, like sear and low temperature cooking modes?

I make a quick and dirty vegetable beef soup when it gets cooler, and it's a great one pot option.

I go in with just a little oil, salt, pepper and stew meat with the pan on sear (or saute, I forget). When I get a decent crust on the meat and a little fond on bottom of the pot, I dump in some chopped onions. Once the fond is broken up, I hit it with stock to cover and pressure cook for about 15 minutes. That leaves the beef nice and tender and then it's time for the rest of the broth and whatever veggies I've got. Then the pot goes on slow cooker mode for a couple of hours.

It's certainly not high cuisine, but it's fast, cheap and easy - plus there's only the one pot to clean.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 3:39 pm to
I use the crock pot somewhat regularly for Sunday meals which I eat for leftovers throughout the work week. That's just about it though. I'm not sure I'd get much benefit from the pressure cooking aspect of the cooker.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/29/22 at 8:39 pm to
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do tell this spaghetti in the instapot trick!


LINK

It's one of those meals where you're like "frick it. I have two toddlers and my wife is working late. I'm going to pour everything in this pot and not worry about it." I initially tried it because the ease intrigued me, but damn if it ain't better than any spaghetti I've ever made with dried pasta and jarred sauce.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 4:48 am to
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Does it produce the same tasty food a slow cooker will?


Do slow cookers produce tasty food?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27009 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:12 am to
Oh yeah man. I actually prefer a slow cooker pot roast to one in a Dutch oven.

I asked about taste because comments on the front page indicate there were some "off" flavors in Instant Pot-cooked food.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:16 am to
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I actually prefer a slow cooker pot roast to one in a Dutch oven.


You have to be one of only a few people who do.

I finally ditched mine because it never produced flavorful food in my opinion. I much prefer a Dutch oven or pressure cooker.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27009 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:19 am to
Maybe so.

I don't make chili or red beans in the crock pot.

I think the key to any good pot roast is a great stock.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:19 am to
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I finally ditched mine because it never produced flavorful food in my opinion. I much prefer a Dutch oven or pressure cooker.


Same experience for me with the Instant Pot. I don’t know what it is that does it, but short ribs/roast/etc. are not at all the same in the IP as they are from a low cook in the oven using my Dutch oven.

Plus, a lot of the richness comes from a couple hours with the lid slightly ajar where the braising liquid reduces and concentrates.
Posted by shaneomac1
Birmingham.al
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:24 am to
thanks brother
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:51 am to
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I finally ditched mine because it never produced flavorful food in my opinion
I don't see how that is even possible unless you did a two ingredient cook-meat and water.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:59 am to
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I don't see how that is even possible unless you did a two ingredient cook-meat and water.



Nope. It's because of the cooking methods involved. Serious Eats and others have conducted some experiments on this.

The final straw for me was pot roast in a slow cooker vs. Dutch Oven, which produced bland, tough meat vs. moist, flavorful meat, respectively.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27009 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:06 am to
You’re doing something wrong if you cook a roast in a crock pot and it comes out dry and bland.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82696 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:10 am to
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The final straw for me was pot roast in a slow cooker vs. Dutch Oven, which produced bland, tough meat vs. moist, flavorful meat, respectively.
I really don't believe you. Tough from a slow cooker?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:11 am to
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You’re doing something wrong if you cook a roast in a crock pot and it comes out dry and bland.


See my link above.

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This may seem like a good thing, but in practice, it means that a slow cooker cooks, well, more slowly, and in most cases never achieves the same results as a Dutch oven. Vegetables remain firmer. Meat remains tougher. Dried beans do not tenderize as well, and starches and gelatin are not as activated, leading to thinner results


Guess I'm not the only one doing something "wrong".
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:12 am to
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Tough from a slow cooker?


Yes, as compared to a Dutch Oven.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:23 am to
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I don’t know what it is that does it, but short ribs/roast/etc. are not at all the same in the IP as they are from a low cook in the oven using my Dutch oven.


Yep, it was roast that finally did it for me, LL. It's one of the few foods that I will eat as leftovers (I think we have a shared aversion to a lot of leftovers ), so I like to make it quite a bit in the fall and winter up here and eat it for a couple of days. I tried it several times in my slow cooker and it always paled in comparison to my Dutch oven, so I finally tossed the slow cooker out.

I'm starting to experiment with pressure cookers now, which are pretty new to me.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 9:25 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81591 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:26 am to
It doesn't help that the vast majority of people use the slow cooker for multiple hours longer than they should because they leave it going while at work.

Your roast can be in a gallon of liquid and still be dry. Overcooked meat is overcooked meat, and the way slow cookers heat makes it easy to overcook versus the oven in a covered pot.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
82696 posts
Posted on 8/30/22 at 9:32 am to
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Guess I'm not the only one doing something "wrong".


Probably not, but wrong is wrong. I have never had a tough roast from a slow cooker, even when using a roast from behind center which I really hate to do.
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Dried beans do not tenderize
Oh, and red beans in our slow cooker is fantastic.
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