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re: Liberal DC mayor agrees that illegal immigrants raise crime levels

Posted on 6/11/22 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 9:19 pm to
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Immigrate legally
Most illegals do immigrate here legally fyi
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the fact that they are even HERE means they are committing a crime
It’s important to determine how much crime they commit once they’re here because if they committed crime more frequently than citizens, that would be cause for alarm since their presence makes us less safe in that case.

It is a matter of fact, however, that they commit crime at a lower rate than citizens, so while there are reasons to be concerned about the illegal population here, we can at least know that our safety is not one of them.

Now that we know this, we know that any politician who campaigns on the idea that illegals make us less safe is a liar, and anyone who votes for such a politician for that reason is a fool.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 9:21 pm to
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You are dense.
And then you demonstrate that you don’t understand the relationship between a crime rate and an individual’s safety.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:04 pm to
Washington DC is a lost cause.....ther is no repairing this shithole.

Ship all the aliens there, it won't make a bit of difference....
Posted by Lightning
Texas
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:07 pm to
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And then you demonstrate that you don’t understand the relationship between a crime rate and an individual’s safety.


If you removed illegal aliens and the crimes they committed from the calculations entirely, would the crime rate go down? Would the total number of crimes committed go down?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:09 pm to
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Except they don’t.


Why do all these studies ignore the crimes of Id theft and fraud?

1.3 million cases of identity theft known by the IRS. One illegal stole $360k in undeserved benefits.

The Senate President Pro Tempore in California publicly admitted that half his family are illegals that used false documents.

LINK

One survey shows that 50-70% of illegal farmworkers have committed fraud.

LINK

How many of the legal immigrant criminals in your study were actually illegal aliens with falsified documents?
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:13 pm to
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If you removed illegal aliens and the crimes they committed from the calculations entirely, would the crime rate go down?
It would increase by an infinitesimal amount.
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Would the total number of crimes committed go down?
Of course.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:14 pm to
Identity theft and hit-and-run are two examples of crimes that illegals commit more frequently than citizens do.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:32 pm to
An illegal immigrant has no right to be here therefore any crime they commit is an unnecessary addition whether or not it impacts the crime rate and they do commit crimes but what you fail to realize is many precincts do not distinguish between illegal or legal status when compiling crime statistics.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:34 pm to
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I would put a lot of $$$ on illegals not being the problem in DC.


Who would you put that money on?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:40 pm to
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As long as you know that they neither raise the crime rate


Since you admit that they commit some crimes then this statement is false.


There could be 1 billion illegals here and only one of them commits a singular crime and that would still raise the crime rate more than it should have been.

In a law abiding border protecting society there would be absolute zero crimes committed because there should be no illegals. Anytime they commit a crime the community is less safe than it should have been with a protected border
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 10:42 pm
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:46 pm to
I appreciate the firm virtue signaling and know that there are numerous reasons to be concerned about illegals and the border. I’m only sharing the proven fact that their presence is not a threat to our collective safety.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:47 pm to
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There could be 1 billion illegals here and only one of them commits a singular crime and that would still raise the crime rate more than it should have been.
That would decimate the crime rate.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:49 pm to
Kate Steinle
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 10:52 pm to
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It is a matter of fact, however, that they commit crime at a lower rate than citizens


Break that down further.

You progressives never want to do that.
This post was edited on 6/12/22 at 5:46 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:21 pm to
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That would decimate the crime rate.



Trying to use a statistical quip. We agree they commit crime. We agree they are here illegally

Illegals add to the crime. Their crime shouldn’t exist at all. It doesn’t matter how often and how relatively few you say that happens. It should the absolute zero
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:22 pm to
As long as you know that their presence does not make us less safe
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:33 pm to
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As long as you know that their presence does not make us less safe



Any additional crime that they commit against a citizen of this country is one that should have never occurred in a just universe. We agree that their crimes committed in addition to being in this country illegally is >0. So yes their presence DOES make Americans less safe. We can disagree about at what margin but there is zero doubt that Americans are more at risk to experience crimes committed against them by having illegals on this country as there is more total crimes committed.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
3050 posts
Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:35 pm to
Illegals shouldn’t be here committing crimes in the first place. What don’t you get about that? One crime committed by any illegal is too many. Go to another country and commit a crime, you’d be dealt with, harshly. Here they get special treatment and you are condoning that crap.

You are an unpatriotic, ignorant trash of a human being.

I hope a large group of illegals break into your moms basement and do certain things to you.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:37 pm to
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there is zero doubt that Americans are more at risk to experience crimes committed against them by having illegals on this country.


IQ Test:

If a town with two violent criminals doubles in size and adds one violent criminal, the people in the town become:

A) safer
B) less safe
C) neither A nor B
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 6/11/22 at 11:39 pm to
I haven’t shared my opinion of what, if anything, should be done about the illegal population. I’ve only shared information indicating that their presence does not make us less safe.
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You are an unpatriotic, ignorant trash of a human being.

I hope a large group of illegals break into your moms basement and do certain things to you.

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