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Let’s address the elephant in the room: the conspiracy folks

Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:13 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:13 am
For the conspiracy folks, what is the logic behind your “false flag” theory?

Why would the local Texas cops be the ones to put off the assault on the gunman when the Feds wanted to go in when they got there? (Bearing in mind the local and state cops have operational control over such matters and the Feds are acting as assistance.)

I get you think these are false flag plots meant to attack the Second Amendment, but considering the political make-up of the situation, why wouldn’t it have been the Feds (beholden to the WH) who put the brakes to the assault plan rather than the local cops?

Sorry, it’s showing up in these threads and I just wanted to address it head on.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:14 am to
I don’t think it was planned but I’ll always be stunned how the alphabet agencies let shite like this slip through the cracks.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:14 am to
I dont think you know what elephant in the room means
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36525 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:17 am to
Nutty buddies out there believe everything is orchestrated by a global cabal who controls everything.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:27 am to
I believe the alphabet orgs want to take our guns.

I believe they would carry out false flag attacks to accomplish this goal if they had the means and could get away with it.

Logically I can't figure out how they could accomplish something like this so I remain highly skeptical.

Do they want to? Yes. Do they have the ability? Probably not.

But, like the Vegas shooting, there are a lot of unanswered questions.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41899 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:27 am to
There was no conspiracy, only a deranged, evil dick with a gun to carry out his acts and a colossal failure at every level from school active shooter protocols to law enforcement protocols.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124924 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:29 am to
Alex Jones Indie song


It’s crazy some of the stuff he turned out to be right about
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76782 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:38 am to
quote:

For the conspiracy folks, what is the logic behind your “false flag” theory?


I don’t believe this was a conspiracy. But conspiracies originate from lack of clear or trusted facts combined with a series of errors. All combined, the choice is either planned conspiracy or mind boggling incompetence/coincidences (in the mind of the conspiracy believer). If we ever got the true facts of an event AND if we trusted the source of those facts then conspiracy theories would die. The mainstream media has proven to be untrustworthy.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4146 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I just wanted to address it head on.
now we can all sleep better tonight
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79337 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:45 am to
Have chided folks on here for it but anyone believing the Alex Jones stuff about crisis actors at sandy hook is straight delusional

I do believe that political parties are only too happy to see events unfold to help their agendas though.

Sorta like Beto seizing the opp to confront Abbott in front of cameras, then having his base eat that shite up like shite on candy
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:52 am to
The same Texas players who orchestrated Jade Helm and took our weapons several years ago is in on this operation. They're pretty good at what they do.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42293 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:55 am to
Why would an entire Party feel the need to open borders and steal an election?


Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
2511 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:58 am to
The politburo applauds your resolve comrade.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5628 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:04 am to
My problem w conspiracy theories is they would often times require large amounts of people to stay quiet about it until they died. It goes against human nature. Someone somewhere, out of thousands of people, would eventually come clean or at some point there is hard evidence uncovered. Not really talking about the weird humming in Taos or big foot, but stuff like the moon landing being fake or 2020 election being stolen.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 11:06 am
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11355 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:12 am to
The easiest answer is the local command misread the situation and made a well intentioned but tragic mistake, based on these earliest reports
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:13 am to
“Let’s address the nothing in the room”
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53484 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:27 am to
quote:

For the conspiracy folks, what is the logic behind your “false flag” theory?

Why would the local Texas cops be the ones to put off the assault on the gunman when the Feds wanted to go in when they got there? (Bearing in mind the local and state cops have operational control over such matters and the Feds are acting as assistance.)

I get you think these are false flag plots meant to attack the Second Amendment, but considering the political make-up of the situation, why wouldn’t it have been the Feds (beholden to the WH) who put the brakes to the assault plan rather than the local cops?

Sorry, it’s showing up in these threads and I just wanted to address it head on.


I'm not saying this was a conspiracy or wasn't but playing devil's advocate, the OP is a sad attempt at a "gotcha" to "prove" that it wasn't.

First of all, if the "Feds" call a local police department and tell them to stand down, they absolutely will, I don't care who has operational control.

Second, all federal agencies absolutely do not work in lock step with one another, just because the Border Patrol got involved doesn't mean another agency wasn't orchestrating something on their own.

Third, let's say it was a false flag operation orchestrated by the "Feds," if they were responding to it themselves, then they absolutely would want to handle the "cleanup." Can't risk the local police department somehow taking this guy alive.

Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:29 am to
And the NRA happen to follow with a huge convention in Houston. Amazing how that works.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 11:41 am to
These mass shootings only seem to happen when Democrats are in trouble politically
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