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ARM home loans just reached 2008 levels
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:48 pm
LINK
Take from that what you will
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The share of ARMs made up 10.8% of overall loans last week, according to MBA, the highest point since March 2008 and more than doubling the 4.4% of purchase application activity for the week ending January 27.
Take from that what you will
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:50 pm to Jjdoc
Why do people put themselves in this position?
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:50 pm to Jjdoc
Headlines within the next year - “A Farewell to ARMs”
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:51 pm to rb
They're not nearly as predatory as they once were, and if you're expecting rates to drop, you'll be saving around 1% until they do.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:51 pm to aubie101
You would think that people who were in the finance market in 2005-2008 would be waving red flags left and right.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:52 pm to rb
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Why do people put themselves in this position?
Because they WANT a house but can't afford one..so they get suckered in by lenders who paint a picture that interest rates will never go up and then they think they can refinance before the rates jump. And for those who do something like that, they probably save a boatload of money...but for those who don't time it right or play the game right it's like playing financial Russian roulette.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:53 pm to Jjdoc
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ARM home loans just reached 2008 levels
How much more due predatory mortgage loan companies make when they resell ARMs?
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:53 pm to LSUSkip
I’m legit curious as to what differences are in new ARMs?
So if the fed raises the base rate 1%, what is a typical ARM doing?
So if the fed raises the base rate 1%, what is a typical ARM doing?
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:55 pm to CFDoc
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So if the fed raises the base rate 1%, what is a typical ARM doing?

Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:55 pm to Jjdoc
Why are ARM loans still a thing, how stupid are we?
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:56 pm to CFDoc
A 30 yr was 3% a yr ago. It’s around 5% today. Assume the worst.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:57 pm to Jjdoc
You have to be a complete frickin moron to have gotten an ARM anytime in the last 5 years.
Or really anytime for that matter. So stupid.
Or really anytime for that matter. So stupid.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:00 pm to Jjdoc
What could seriously go wrong buying now?
1) Historically inflated real estate prices
2) ARMs with a short fuse after which rates become floating - typically interest-only so no principal is paid and therefore no equity gained
3) Rising living costs
4) Living "paycheck-to-paycheck" - so real no savings or financial cushion
5) The market on the cusp of a historic crash where retirement funds are at risk of being decimated - again no financial cushion
Need I go on?
1) Historically inflated real estate prices
2) ARMs with a short fuse after which rates become floating - typically interest-only so no principal is paid and therefore no equity gained
3) Rising living costs
4) Living "paycheck-to-paycheck" - so real no savings or financial cushion
5) The market on the cusp of a historic crash where retirement funds are at risk of being decimated - again no financial cushion
Need I go on?
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:01 pm to NOLAVOL16
Didn’t rates drop significantly after 2008? Not saying that will happen this time just that having an ARM in 2008 would’ve adjusted down 5 years/3years later
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:01 pm to NOLAVOL16
Yes - but what is the alternative? Renting? Where landlords will jack up the prices in our so-called "trickle down" economy?
Need a place to raise your family unless you qualify for low-income housing.
Need a place to raise your family unless you qualify for low-income housing.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:07 pm to the_truman_shitshow
In California, rent for a month then declare yourself as a squatter.
Legal proceedings will be such an issue that you can either get paid to go away or get months of rent for free.
Scummy as hell but a viable tactic in a state with fricked up laws.
Legal proceedings will be such an issue that you can either get paid to go away or get months of rent for free.
Scummy as hell but a viable tactic in a state with fricked up laws.
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:07 pm to the_truman_shitshow
The economy cant trickle down when we have the fed and govt injecting new money for not doing shite every week.
Trickle down works when people have a desire to better themselves. Rich people blow money left and right. If the ones who earned it dont, then their children do
Trickle down works when people have a desire to better themselves. Rich people blow money left and right. If the ones who earned it dont, then their children do
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:09 pm to Dawgfanman
ARM’s are stupid because the holder is taking on all the risk. If rates go up, you’re screwed. If they go down, yeah, your rate will drop but you could also refinance and achieve the same thing without the risk.
And anyone that was making accurate predictions that interest rates would go to all time record lows and stay there for 10 years is either a financial genius who made billions in the market or a degenerate gambler who got lucky.
And anyone that was making accurate predictions that interest rates would go to all time record lows and stay there for 10 years is either a financial genius who made billions in the market or a degenerate gambler who got lucky.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 4:11 pm
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