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ARM home loans just reached 2008 levels

Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
54817 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:48 pm
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The share of ARMs made up 10.8% of overall loans last week, according to MBA, the highest point since March 2008 and more than doubling the 4.4% of purchase application activity for the week ending January 27.




Take from that what you will
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:50 pm to
Why do people put themselves in this position?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101857 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:50 pm to
Headlines within the next year - “A Farewell to ARMs”
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3338 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:50 pm to
Fricking NUTS.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22478 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:51 pm to
They're not nearly as predatory as they once were, and if you're expecting rates to drop, you'll be saving around 1% until they do.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101857 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:51 pm to
You would think that people who were in the finance market in 2005-2008 would be waving red flags left and right.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8162 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Why do people put themselves in this position?


Because they WANT a house but can't afford one..so they get suckered in by lenders who paint a picture that interest rates will never go up and then they think they can refinance before the rates jump. And for those who do something like that, they probably save a boatload of money...but for those who don't time it right or play the game right it's like playing financial Russian roulette.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
47445 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

ARM home loans just reached 2008 levels


How much more due predatory mortgage loan companies make when they resell ARMs?
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2192 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:53 pm to
I’m legit curious as to what differences are in new ARMs?

So if the fed raises the base rate 1%, what is a typical ARM doing?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47445 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

So if the fed raises the base rate 1%, what is a typical ARM doing?


Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
8368 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:55 pm to
Why are ARM loans still a thing, how stupid are we?
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:56 pm to
A 30 yr was 3% a yr ago. It’s around 5% today. Assume the worst.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 3:57 pm to
You have to be a complete frickin moron to have gotten an ARM anytime in the last 5 years.

Or really anytime for that matter. So stupid.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 3:58 pm
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:00 pm to
What could seriously go wrong buying now?

1) Historically inflated real estate prices
2) ARMs with a short fuse after which rates become floating - typically interest-only so no principal is paid and therefore no equity gained
3) Rising living costs
4) Living "paycheck-to-paycheck" - so real no savings or financial cushion
5) The market on the cusp of a historic crash where retirement funds are at risk of being decimated - again no financial cushion

Need I go on?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24858 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:01 pm to
Didn’t rates drop significantly after 2008? Not saying that will happen this time just that having an ARM in 2008 would’ve adjusted down 5 years/3years later
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:01 pm to
Yes - but what is the alternative? Renting? Where landlords will jack up the prices in our so-called "trickle down" economy?

Need a place to raise your family unless you qualify for low-income housing.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2900 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101857 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:07 pm to
In California, rent for a month then declare yourself as a squatter.

Legal proceedings will be such an issue that you can either get paid to go away or get months of rent for free.


Scummy as hell but a viable tactic in a state with fricked up laws.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6640 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:07 pm to
The economy cant trickle down when we have the fed and govt injecting new money for not doing shite every week.
Trickle down works when people have a desire to better themselves. Rich people blow money left and right. If the ones who earned it dont, then their children do
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 5/18/22 at 4:09 pm to
ARM’s are stupid because the holder is taking on all the risk. If rates go up, you’re screwed. If they go down, yeah, your rate will drop but you could also refinance and achieve the same thing without the risk.

And anyone that was making accurate predictions that interest rates would go to all time record lows and stay there for 10 years is either a financial genius who made billions in the market or a degenerate gambler who got lucky.
This post was edited on 5/18/22 at 4:11 pm
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