re: What if Putin’s strategy is more complex

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take in all the information and military tactical knowledge and come up with your own conclusion.

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Believe it or not this is actually pretty spot on description of how I achieve my own opinions and viewpoints and conclusions on all matters of national import, aka news. I do take in traditional news sources even so far as to do so with Fox as well as CNN. But more is required, most notably common sense, life experience, reasonable supposition, inference and most importantly intuition. And of those, my own intuition and common sense is what I trust the most.

But in this instance my point was that the average Joe which I’d consider myself will take in no other details and specifics in this matter than what the news outlets can provide. Which of course is taken with a heavy dose of skepticism. Now, maybe you have actual on the ground details to supplement your own thinking, but I don’t have such myself. So I don’t know what else there is to supplement what comes from Fox and CNN. I admit common sense and intuition help me not on this particular subject.

I think you are giving Putin to much credit. His generals and Defense Ministry stooges gave him an overly optimistic assessment of Russian forces and under estimated the abilities of the Ukrainians. Classic blunders. As others have pointed out, the Russians thought they could mash the Ukrainians quickly and force a surrender. If the intelligence is to be believed, the Russians have lost a third of their invasion force. There’s no way that would be a planned result.

Putin is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess.

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davyjones

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Fair enough.

It is not easy to find raw information. In this instance you need to skew your approach heavily against the media narrative. It’s a higher bar you need to reach in order be convinced.

The advances and withdraws have not born out a solid military objective being achieved. Mariupol is the only “win” and it’s sloppy AF.

No. I think the Biden administration is bought and paid for and Ukraine is getting astonishingly high ROI on their bribery dollars in this case. This was set up by CIA going back a decade or more. This is what they consider a success. That just happens to coincide perfectly with a long running money laundering scheme. Shocker, I know. CIA being involved in something like this? Totally unprecedented, right?

lol no.

We've got dinosaurs from the Cold War still in charge of everything and by god they're gonna get their pound of Russian flesh before they die of old age. Radioactive or not.