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re: Moderna asking FDA for permission to inject children under 6
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:46 am to reddy tiger
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:46 am to reddy tiger
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Vaccines either prevent infection, or reduce the severity and length of infection. Vaccines have basically zero side-effects. Kids spread disease within a population more effectively than any other demographic. By vaccinating children, you drastically reduce transmission.
Kids are at basically no risk from COVID-19.
The only basis for vaccinating small children is to protect adults, which is a) speculative as far as effectiveness and b) completely warped as a societal urge.
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:46 am to reddy tiger
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reddy tiger
Really banking those social credit score wins today
Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:35 am to reddy tiger
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Vaccines have basically zero side-effects.
The truth is that there is much that is not completely understood about the human immune system and the long term secondary or non-specific effects of various vaccines.
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Vaccines are powerful tools for preventing infection or disease from the infectious pathogens they target, but they may induce additional effects unrelated to the intended targets.
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Epidemiological evidence for SVEs points to the ability of vaccines to impact future immune responses in ways that can be either beneficial or detrimental.
Also consider the issue of 'Original antigenic sin':
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Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect,[1] refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system "trapped" by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections.
This doesn't sound good for people whose first exposure was the vaccine.
All FDA approved medicines are 'safe and effective' until mountains of data show otherwise. Refer to oxycontin for an example.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 1:05 pm to BestBanker
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Not being a jerk: Do you express your educated opinion to these parents, OR do you just follow their request to inject their young children with the fluid?
If they ask for my opinion, I always give my honest opinion. I do ask them if their child has already had covid. If yes, I ask if their pediatrician encouraged them to get it. If they haven't spoken to the ped, I recommend they do that first. But I don't refuse to administer the vaccine.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:20 pm to Misnomer
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If they haven't spoken to the ped, I recommend they do that first. But I don't refuse to administer the vaccine.
That's what I would've expected your response to be, and that's what I think is most appropriate. Do what you can, but follow the parents decisions. Thanks and keep up the good work.
PS. Is it true that the vaccine package includes a blank sheet of paper that takes the place of the information normally provided?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:26 pm to fatboydave
We are still doing this?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:27 pm to BestBanker
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PS. Is it true that the vaccine package includes a blank sheet of paper that takes the place of the information normally provided?
Where the frick do you people get your information from?
Posted on 4/28/22 at 3:29 pm to reddy tiger
quote:This one doesn't.
Vaccines either prevent infection,
quote:And how severe is Covid in children?
reduce the severity and length of infection.
quote:Right ok.
Vaccines have basically zero side-effects
quote:So then YOU can get vaccinated with the vaccine that doesn't stop the spread.
Kids spread disease within a population more effectively than any other demographic. By vaccinating children, you drastically reduce transmission.
quote:Wasn't he old and had health problems? But way to go with your comparing of healthy kids who get covid and old men with covid
all Herman Cain Awards are self-nominations, and all are awarded posthumously.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:10 pm to BestBanker
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PS. Is it true that the vaccine package includes a blank sheet of paper that takes the place of the information normally provided?
No, that's not true.
ETA at least not of Pfizer. Then again, I never look at those inserts in the packages. I access monographs digitally if I want to review them.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:12 pm to fatboydave
Are people still getting Covid? Go home, Moderna.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:29 pm to terriblegreen
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What fricking psychopath would inject their 5 year old child with this bullshite??
Very few, until the babysitters - aka public schools - start requiring them.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:32 pm to terriblegreen
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What fricking psychopath would inject their 5 year old child with this bullshite??
This board is reddit lite, so plenty on here.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:39 pm to fatboydave
At first, I think the effort to get a vaccine for Covid was genuine. When there is a virus, that's what happens. A vaccine is developed and I don't know the right terminology, I read a book about it, but the reason it didn't take as long was because there was already a similar vaccine that had to be modified. But a vaccine becomes available.. Cool. Then there was new strains and they wanted everyone to take a booster, then there was another booster. I think I saw where there are 4 boosters.
Then now the FDA gives permission to inject kids under 6. Its a money grab at this point. And just because the FDA gives its approval that shouldn't mean much. This is the same FDA that allowed OxyContin to say their drug was not addictive. People inside the FDA did Purdue favors in exchange for much better paying jobs with Purdue.
Taking vitamins and keeping your immune system is probably just as or more effective, but you don't hear anything about this because.. That involved products not approved by the FDA. With that said, people can do whatever they think is best for them.
Then now the FDA gives permission to inject kids under 6. Its a money grab at this point. And just because the FDA gives its approval that shouldn't mean much. This is the same FDA that allowed OxyContin to say their drug was not addictive. People inside the FDA did Purdue favors in exchange for much better paying jobs with Purdue.
Taking vitamins and keeping your immune system is probably just as or more effective, but you don't hear anything about this because.. That involved products not approved by the FDA. With that said, people can do whatever they think is best for them.
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