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re: What if Putin Didn’t Miscalculate?

Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:56 am to
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10811 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:56 am to
He knew exactly what he was stealing from the West and what the response would be. He miscalculated on how difficult and expensive his objectives would be. The bottom line is that the United States and Europe will be in a much worse position when the dust settles because of the ineptitude of Joe Biden and the legacy of Angela Merkel, Germany's Hillary.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54399 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:57 am to
I read a lot of goldbug type sites and they are calling him a genius. But, they are selling the idea that the dollar is doomed and trying to get you to buy gold, so take it with a grain of salt. If nothing else, he has fought off the idea that the sanctions will lead to collapse and regime change. This is a dangerous game of chicken being played. I do think the world order is never going to be the same and this could be the beginning of the end of globalism.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54399 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 8:59 am to
I don't know much about Merkel, but I have seen some commentary that she would have never let this conflict happen as she is pretty pragmatic.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:02 am to
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:08 am to
Putin didn't miscalculate. He's knocking down the HEGEMONY and globalist agenda step by step. Like it or not, NATO and the western liberal propaganda machine will be weaker after all this and Russia will be larger, more united and stronger across the board.

And after 10-15 years, Ukraine and Russia will be stronger than every before too plus working together against the liberal HEGEMONIC powers of they still exist in their current form.
Posted by Bryantboyz
Moscow
Member since Dec 2018
668 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:10 am to
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Angela Merkel, Germany's Hillary.


Hillary is dogshite. Merkel led Germany to become Europe's top power in every aspect basically until she went ape shite with the forced immigration upon her own people.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54399 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:10 am to
Go fight Scott Ritter on Twitter. The left used to love him.
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This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 9:12 am
Posted by dolamite
st. mary parish
Member since Sep 2009
921 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:11 am to
Putin's plan is to make damn sure that Ukraine never be part of NATO. Ukraine was given 2 choices: the easy way- capitulate, or the hard way- having its major cities destroyed.
Don't expect the Russians to vacate the territory in eastern Ukraine and Crimea anytime soon, probably never. Russia has the port on the Black Sea that it will never give up and eastern Ukraine is more pro-Russia than not.
I doubt that he ever planned on occupying the entire country, just the parts that he wanted/needed. And, making sure that a buffer zone will exist between NATO and Russia.
Posted by The007
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
474 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:12 am to
Putin will be there until Biden tells him all the evidence has been destroyed about the Bio labs Hunter funded and the evidence of him being paid off
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:13 am to
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Because of our corrupt leaders and media, the truth is we don’t know anything about what’s really going on over there.


Exactly. Believe me, Putin DID NOT miscalculate. He has caused the wheels of globalism to fall off.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54399 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:14 am to
That would be an interesting twist! 4d chess from Joe and Vlad.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:14 am to
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Go fight Scott Ritter on Twitter.


Nah dude is a convicted sex offender.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23259 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:18 am to
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Putin didn't miscalculate. He's knocking down the HEGEMONY and globalist agenda step by step. Like it or not, NATO and the western liberal propaganda machine will be weaker after all this and Russia will be larger, more united and stronger across the board.



NATO is probably stronger/more united right now than they've been in decades.

Unless they withdraw fully, Russia is about to be in a very long term military conflict while their economy is crashing. Not exactly the recipe for success.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28134 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:20 am to
This has nothing to do with globalism or any of the other conspiracy theory foolishness. Putin wants to rip off Ukraine. Ukraine has something he wants and it ain't biolabs.

Follow the money.....always follow the money.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54399 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:20 am to
I don't think this conflict goes past April. If so, the question is, do the sanctions continue? If so, I think Russia is screwed. But, the Ruble is hanging in there.
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The Spectator Index
@spectatorindex
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Russian Ruble per US Dollar

22nd of February: 78

1st of March: 105

8th of March: 144

15th of March: 99

22nd of March: 98

Now: 79
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61912 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:21 am to
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This has nothing to do with globalism or any of the other conspiracy theory foolishness.

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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75224 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:23 am to
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Nah dude is a convicted sex offender.


Odd that would bother a far left extremist like yourself
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9698 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:24 am to
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He has caused the wheels of globalism to fall off.





He has? He has shown the US under Biden to be weak, but the NWO is as strong as ever.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:28 am to
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Follow the money.....always follow the money.


Okay. If you want to buy our commodities, which you will desperately need due to your allegiance to globalism, you must buy them with rubles, gold, or silver.

Have you seen what the ruble has done in the past 7 days. :rotflmao:
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28134 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 9:45 am to
You don't think this has to do with money? Wars are about money/ resources.That's what wars are all about. Japan tried to knock out the US fleet in 41 because they really wanted Indonesia's oil. Hitler invaded Russia aiming South for the Caucasus....where the oil is. Germany started a war with France in the 1870's to wrest away Alsace Lorraine where the coal was. Us Civil War.....money. Spanish/ American War....money. Gulf War....oil and money.

Ukraine is resources and money.
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