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LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:25 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:25 am
Retirees earn an average of $27,378 annually in retirement. The bill if passed would allow them to earn 50% of their annual pension, a measley $13,689 before taxes, for up to 3 years. What retired teacher will want to work a full year for an avg. gross salary of $13.6K?
This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees. Poorly paid, low retirement benefits, and not addressing the real issue. Paying teachers a true living wage. They all should walk off the job today and choose another field of work.
Teaching is a noble profession, but just not truly valued by others. Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
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This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees. Poorly paid, low retirement benefits, and not addressing the real issue. Paying teachers a true living wage. They all should walk off the job today and choose another field of work.
Teaching is a noble profession, but just not truly valued by others. Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:29 am to boudinman
Obviously your teachers were paid WAY too much. The 50% would be in addition to their teaching salary
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:31 am to boudinman
Teachers are paid an average of $51,666 in Louisiana.
I stopped crying right there.
I stopped crying right there.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:31 am to boudinman
$51,666 + $13,689 = $65,355
Or more...they come in at experienced level, and if their retirement is maxed it keeps building.
Or more...they come in at experienced level, and if their retirement is maxed it keeps building.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:33 am to boudinman
This appears to be WAE work, meaning that the retirees draw their retirement AND draw a new check from the state.
If someone is retired from teaching but still needs money, getting effectively 45K a year taxed at 15K a year isn’t bad. (State retirement is exempt from state taxes, so only the new income is taxable by the state)
If someone is retired from teaching but still needs money, getting effectively 45K a year taxed at 15K a year isn’t bad. (State retirement is exempt from state taxes, so only the new income is taxable by the state)
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:34 am to boudinman
The biggest lie we have told society is that we underpay teachers.
Download the Open Books app and unless you live in a state capital, the highest paid state workers are normal educators. Administrators are certainly the highest, but run of the mill teachers with 15+ years experience normally do pretty well.
Download the Open Books app and unless you live in a state capital, the highest paid state workers are normal educators. Administrators are certainly the highest, but run of the mill teachers with 15+ years experience normally do pretty well.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:35 am to boudinman
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LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.
A lot of teachers suck in Louisiana. And I'm not saying that teachers are underpaid. But it's pretty clear that Louisiana isn't always getting the best and brightest for this line of work.
If Louisiana paid them substantially more than the surrounding states, people would actually move here to apply to local jobs. Administrators would have a choice in applicants and wouldn't have to rely on just anyone to fill a position. And Louisiana has a lot of crappy teachers just filling positions because they need a body.
If there's a shortage, they really should look at hiking teacher pay.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:39 am to boudinman
AL doesn't tax teacher or military retirement pay.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:39 am to boudinman
Well these POS work 9 months get 3 months off and then have shitty unions that don’t care about kids and push political agendas while recruiting our kids. frick teachers, tell them to get a real job!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:40 am to boudinman
Assuming the teacher fully vested, that's 20 years (your number includes all retirees, including early retirees). That's a teacher w/ 20 years experience coming in at THAT salary, plus 50% of their retirement.
Pretty good deal, actually.
Pretty good deal, actually.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:41 am to boudinman
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Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
My wife is a teacher and after teaching for 30 years she’s going to get around 45,000ish a year in retirement. It’s a percentage of the average of the highest three years of salary (it increases every year while teaching).
I suspect that $27,000 figure is averaging all the aids and cafeteria workers together with teachers.
Edit:
Actually, the teacher pay really started ramping around 2010ish so maybe retired teachers really are around $27,000 a year in retirement. If so, that figure will increase fast as new teachers retire.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:44 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:44 am to boudinman
Are they recruiting properly for teaching positions?
IMO they need to offer competitive pay and then start recruiting out of the bigger midwestern Universities. Poach other state's college graduates to come here somehow. Maybe offer a 5+ year loan payment bonus for them. Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
You'd be surprised how far the latter part of that statement would go in places like Illinois or Wisconsin. Both of those states have very good schools and pay their teachers very well.
IMO they need to offer competitive pay and then start recruiting out of the bigger midwestern Universities. Poach other state's college graduates to come here somehow. Maybe offer a 5+ year loan payment bonus for them. Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
You'd be surprised how far the latter part of that statement would go in places like Illinois or Wisconsin. Both of those states have very good schools and pay their teachers very well.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:05 am to boudinman
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Teaching is a noble profession
Yeah so noble to get every holiday and summer off along with a pension after 20 years of service.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:25 am to boudinman
"Come do the job of a full-time teacher for way, way less money!"
I think that strategy has a poor chance of success, but what do I know?
I think that strategy has a poor chance of success, but what do I know?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:31 am to boudinman
Get rid of the retirement and do 401K match like everything else. That will help reduce the massive burden on the school system budget.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:36 am to boudinman
K-12 education is not driven by free market forces like college is.
IE, a physics prof is making more than an Eng lit prof at the same college. Not true in a H.S.
So, if a really good HS chemistry teacher retires and collects pension and the only replacement is a moron the logical thing to do is rehire the old guy and let him keep his pension + salary. You're not losing money compared to hiring the moron.
IE, a physics prof is making more than an Eng lit prof at the same college. Not true in a H.S.
So, if a really good HS chemistry teacher retires and collects pension and the only replacement is a moron the logical thing to do is rehire the old guy and let him keep his pension + salary. You're not losing money compared to hiring the moron.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:37 am to boudinman
My wife and I are both teachers. We researched where we wanted to live and two considerations were salary and cost of living.
LA was not even competitive.
LA was not even competitive.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:42 am to boudinman
The teacher shortage is less about pay and more about bureaucratic bs that teachers have to deal with in order to teach. Teaching children is already not an easy job, but all of the extra stuff they’re tasked with is such a pain that turnover is a big problem. The longer tenured teachers tough it out to retirement, but the younger ones get burnt out quickly and often leave.
Where pay is a problem is in shortages for specific kinds of teachers. The shortage is far more dire for hs math and science teachers than it is for elementary education, ela, or for history teachers. One reason is that they cannot offer to pay more for one type of hs teacher than another despite there being a substantial gap in the number of qualified interested persons to teach those subjects. It’s a lot more difficult to get certified as an AP level physics or chemistry teacher than it is to teach English or social studies, but they’re paid the same. Thus, there’s a perpetual shortage of those teachers with more specialized qualifications.
Where pay is a problem is in shortages for specific kinds of teachers. The shortage is far more dire for hs math and science teachers than it is for elementary education, ela, or for history teachers. One reason is that they cannot offer to pay more for one type of hs teacher than another despite there being a substantial gap in the number of qualified interested persons to teach those subjects. It’s a lot more difficult to get certified as an AP level physics or chemistry teacher than it is to teach English or social studies, but they’re paid the same. Thus, there’s a perpetual shortage of those teachers with more specialized qualifications.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:54 am to boudinman
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This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees.
If covid has taught us one thing, it's that teachers love to bitch about money, while not really producing. Sure there is the outlier that actually gives a shite about the kids, but mostly, they just want to be called "heroes" and demand a paycheck for not working.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:04 am to boudinman
JBE’s wife was a teacher. Everything’s gonna be alright.
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