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re: Come to grips that this is by design

Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
3044 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:42 am to
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I believe their plan was held at bay during the Trump years. They are pushing to catch up and stay on schedule.




No disrespect intended, but this is the one thing I can't make sense of out of all this talk of globalism and the powerful forces sending us toward a new world order: How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place? Did evil-doers behind the scenes set all this up, only to cross their fingers and hope for a Hillary win come election day? Wouldn't they have done everything in their power to make sure Trump never happened?

It's like when I used to attend pro wrestling matches as a kid and the old guys in the audience insisted the whole deal was rigged, except for the title matches. That's when the guys go at it for real.

It doesn't add up to me.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:48 am to
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No disrespect intended, but this is the one thing I can't make sense of out of all this talk of globalism and the powerful forces sending us toward a new world order: How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place? Did evil-doers behind the scenes set all this up, only to cross their fingers and hope for a Hillary win come election day? Wouldn't they have done everything in their power to make sure Trump never happened? It's like when I used to attend pro wrestling matches as a kid and the old guys in the audience insisted the whole deal was rigged, except for the title matches. That's when the guys go at it for real. It doesn't add up to me.


I've been going back and forth on this. Regardless of whether Trump was truly an enemy of the Deep State/Globalist cabal or he's a double agent working as controlled opposition - look at the outcome.

Look at our society - how divisive, fragmented and broken we are as a society. Having had Trump in the spotlight, it only further removed any blurring of lines - everything now is more binary, the political climate has intensified 10-fold. Now the progressives can categorically dump any Christian, Conservative, alt-right, evangelical into the category of a Trump supporting, climate-change denying, anti-vaxxer, racist, bigot and homo/transphobe, violent gun-blazin' Jan-6 supporting domestic terrorist. Do you see what is happening now?
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68493 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:50 am to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 electio


Nobody thought Trump would win by as much as he did.

Remember, impeachment started before inaguation day. They were desperate to get him out
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:50 am to
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It doesn't add up to me.

Globalists needed a boogeyman. An enemy that they could turn people against. A scapegoat for any negative repercussions of all their country-destroying polices and orders. Blame Trump and watch the ignorant masses lap it up. It’s happening every day.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6089 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:51 am to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place? Did evil-doers behind the scenes set all this up, only to cross their fingers and hope for a Hillary win come election day? Wouldn't they have done everything in their power to make sure Trump never happened?


They underestimated the turn out for Trump.

They did not make the same mistake in 2020. Ergo 150+ Million votes cast of around 135 Million Registered Voters.

No fraud though. 15-20 million people same day registered and we had 100% voter turnout in this country for the first time ever.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:52 am to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place?


Who says he wasn't part of the plan? If the goal is to topple the U.S. Government, then you hook it at the top, rock the wall back and forth. Trump is a perfect patsy in that he is so divisive, he pretty much guaranteed a dichotomous split of the populace. His economic success during his presidency stand out only to make future economic failures appear worse by comparison.

It's like tug-o-war when the teams are evenly matched and one team lets up some slack to get the other team to slip and lose their foundation before pulling back as hard as they can.
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1698 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:54 am to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place?


They thought Trump was going to get blown out so they didn't plan ahead. Even the weekend before the media was saying he would lose by at least 5 points if not much more.

Trump's victory is what caused the globalists to lose their shite. They were comfortable taking their time before then.

But once that happened, they realized the general public was starting to catch on and so they moved everything into overdrive.

The COVID plandemic was the starting point. WW3 will be the ending point where they crush (or attempt to crush) all opposition.

Take heart though. There is no guarantee they win. In fact, they are fricking up left and right.

If we could get our shite together we might be able to stop it. But when I see some of my own Trump voting relatives putting Ukraine flags on their facebook I know we have a long way to go.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1218 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:28 pm to
They didn't have their fraud game on point in 2016, nor the cover. COVID (mail in ballots) and learning from their previous shortcomings on a national level gave them both the cover and ability to make sure it didn't happen again in 2020. Having an army of idiot soldiers do their bidding (here's looking at you BLM and ANTIFA) and provide the money laundering front made it easy.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13357 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 12:55 pm to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place?


He was highly underestimated. They thought the masses were brainwashed to the point of believing anything that they saw in the media.

Trump woke up the populace and explained to everyone how they were getting fricked over by the government/elite.

Dominion was installed to prevent this from happening again.

The internet and social media (meme wars) was used heavily against the left. Another thing that wasn’t predicted. It’s the reason since Trump was elected that social media has been heavily censored.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41348 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:32 pm to
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It doesn't add up to me.



Trump was either a tool or a pawn. Take your pick.


I've argued on here repeatedly that we only get these huge draconian swings in policy with a Republican in office. George Bush gave us the Patriot Act and bailouts. Trump gave us the COVID lockdowns and bailouts. There is NO WAY ANY Republican votes for any of those if Al Gore or Hillary Clinton is proposing them. NO. Way.

I'm not sure how anyone can defend Trump based off his record. Drain the fricking swamp, my arse.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12128 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 4:35 pm to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election if all these nefarious plans were already in place? Did evil-doers behind the scenes set all this up, only to cross their fingers and hope for a Hillary win come election day? Wouldn't they have done everything in their power to make sure Trump never happened?

They never in their wildest dreams thought Trump would win and Hilary ran her campaign as if it was owed to her so none of them ever gave it a second’s thought. They had “it’s her turn,” the MeToo movement, the entirety of social media, big tech, mainstream media, Hollywood, and everyone with ovaries on their side. They were coming off the high of Obama’s two terms secured by white guilt and the race card, so they just knew that putting a woman in office was a given. In their minds Hillary losing to Trump was about as likely as Tom Brady having a winless season … it wasn’t even something you consider.

They learned their lesson quick and had to steal the election for Biden in a hundred different ways. And now they’re doing everything they can to keep Trump from running again BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL AFRAID OF HIM.
Posted by CajunZ81
Mexico City
Member since Jun 2010
1743 posts
Posted on 3/8/22 at 7:03 pm to
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How was Trump able to win the 2016 election


They didn’t take him serious and “she” was never supposed to lose. When you are on the top of the mountain for so long you get sloppy and arrogant. They were caught off guard.


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Wouldn't they have done everything in their power to make sure Trump never happened?


Look at the hell the D’s and media put Trump through during his 4 years. They impeached him twice for nothing. I’d say they were in panic the entire presidency because he delayed their plan for 4 years. Now they are playing catch-up and it’s more obvious now than the slow boil of the frog in the water. It’s a fast boil and most of everyone is beginning to wake the frick up.
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