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re: Disney. One statement to sum up the current state of affairs in the park.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:04 am to TheeRealCarolina
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:04 am to TheeRealCarolina
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Rides are more complicated these days so they require more upkeep. Also, lawyers.
Sure, newer rides are more complicated, but downtime is bad across the board. We have about 20+ visits to WDW and countless trips to other parks we have passes to for comparison. It is noticeably worse. It's not just Ratatouille and ROTR, it's Space Mountain. It's ToT, it's RnRC. And so on. And it's not just "complete" downtime, they have "B" scenarios where animatronics are replaced by video or removed altogether. They may bypass key elements of the ride, such as the intro to Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railroad... reliability is just poor. Imagine waiting for 2 hours to ride RoTR, and have them walk you past all the pre-show stuff?
What makes it "bad" is the whole Genie+/LL situation. If your chosen ride is down, you are stuck with it. A cast member might be able to help you, but again... why should it be that hard? Old FP would let you just cancel and pick another. With this program, if downtime causes you to miss your window, you can come back later... but so will everyone else that missed their window earlier. Imagine paying $15 for ROTR and finding the queue stretching into Toy Story Land. It happens.
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:09 am to lakeviewtiger
I’m at the Grand Floridian right now. It’s ballin. Parks aren’t really crowded like 2-4 years ago. Staff seems nice. Food took a step down I feel like. The parks look great.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:16 am to TheeRealCarolina
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4 day parkhoppers for 4 are approx $2500
I’m going to knock at least $500 off your bill to start. If you are doing a 4 day stay, you don’t need to park hop.
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5 nights in hotel, realistically, $1000
Can do that for $150 a night at one of the Disney Springs hotels.
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Incidentals - $250 (that plush Stitch someone had to have…)
You can buy the same souvenirs on Amazon for 75% of the cost. Hell some Disney specialty sites will have it for 50-60% of the cost.
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Food - $500 if you eat ramen in the room
Ramen costs a dime. 3 times a day times 4 people times 5 days is $6. Your math is off.
Enjoy your trip, can't wait to see your receipts. LOL.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:25 am to concrete_tiger
Ramen in the room? Just go to Biloxi. Disney isn’t for everyone.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:29 am to concrete_tiger
We went in January and had a blast. This is the first time I took my kids, and I hadn’t been since I was kid so really nothing to compare it to. I would say wait until your kids are at least 40 inches tall as that is what most of the rides require (a few are 44 or 46). But at 40 my 3 year old daughter was able to go on some of the bigger rides like RoTR and Tower of Terror and Dinosaur.
From what I can tell we beat the absolute “crush” of people by about a week. The parks didn’t seem packed or overwhelming.
Genie is a pain in the arse, but as long as you read ahead of time what you need to do and stay on top of it, it definitely helps.
As for the magic, it’s still there. We bought my 6 year old a storm trooper helmet and “baton” at Galaxy’s Edge. He ended up leaving it on the Skyliner on the way to dinner. He was so upset.
When I stopped at the front desk of our hotel to see how lost/found worked, they told me they would handle it. The staff at the Poly sent an employee to Hollywood Studios the next day just to get him another one, at no charge. It was waiting for us the next night.
From what I can tell we beat the absolute “crush” of people by about a week. The parks didn’t seem packed or overwhelming.
Genie is a pain in the arse, but as long as you read ahead of time what you need to do and stay on top of it, it definitely helps.
As for the magic, it’s still there. We bought my 6 year old a storm trooper helmet and “baton” at Galaxy’s Edge. He ended up leaving it on the Skyliner on the way to dinner. He was so upset.
When I stopped at the front desk of our hotel to see how lost/found worked, they told me they would handle it. The staff at the Poly sent an employee to Hollywood Studios the next day just to get him another one, at no charge. It was waiting for us the next night.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 7:31 am
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:48 am to Bourre
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My wife has the itch to go back to Disney as well. Our youngest is 8 and we haven’t been in about 5-6 years. Every time one of these threads show up, I send it to her to show that the Disney Parks have gone downhill and aren’t worth the huge expense they are charging.
Buddy of mine put it best: "Disney World isn't a vacation, it's a test of will and endurance."
I think they wave the memory eraser wand from Men In Black in front of your face as you leave to make you forget how miserable and poorer you are when you leave.
Almost every 2 years, my wife seems to gets the itch to go. I do the same thing in terms of looking for TD threads on recent experiences.
We went last year and dropped serious coin to stay at the Grand Floridian. The rooms were meh, the food was meh, service was noticeably substandard for DW, lines were long, kids were exhausted and grumpy...so it was your run of the mill Disney experience. To top it off, the kids mostly just wanted to be at the GF pool. We've stayed a few of the on-property resorts once over the last 10 years, but this last we get back home I said to myself "yeah, we're not doing that again for a looooong time."
But like clockwork, my wife started pestering me around Christmas about going again this year. I reminded her that we can spend far less and do an extremely nice all inclusive vacation in the Caribbean, to which she obliged.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:55 am to lakeviewtiger
LSU fans here at Disney are the trashiest of SEC fans here at the Parks.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:13 am to lsupride87
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Just priced a 5 night stay with 4 days park for 5 people staying at a cheap value result. No meals or anything like that at all
Bizzare because here is a 5 day suite at a value resort….
5-Day Ticket with Admission to 1 Park Per Day
$4,114.43
When you select a nicer resort and add park hopper etc, yes the price will go up.
You can do Disney in a budget. Hell, you can stay off site and bring in all your own food and pay even less.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:52 am to TheDeathValley
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Bizzare because here is a 5 day suite at a value resort….
5-Day Ticket with Admission to 1 Park Per Day
$4,114.43
I used an actual Disney travel agent
Art of animation, 6 nights, only 4 tickets for 5 people(no park hopper, no genie, no food)
$6,300
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:54 am to lakeviewtiger
Spring for the $700/hr VIP tour guide and your problems go away
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:01 pm to rattlebucket
But yet none of these people will have five dollars to make house and car payments when things go from bad to worse in our economy which has the potential to spiral into a singularity of epic proportion.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:10 pm to lakeviewtiger
You multipule visitors to Disney world are fricking weird
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:19 pm to p&g
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You multipule visitors to Disney world are fricking weird
Probably.
The grown men that pay to hunt on my land, and show up with their $100k trucks that only touch dirt when they hit the farm, towing a $20k polaris, etc etc... are kinda weird, too. But it's their thing, and they enjoy it.
I always used to get a laugh back in 'th day when I was a kid with a little Nissan 240sx, and the hunters would stop to lock their hubs before going down the road, only to be passed by me...
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:48 pm to concrete_tiger
I supervised the Caribbean Beach Resort Hotel construction. The best time in our lives involving Disney World.
6 days a week on site. Contractors pass. On Saturdays, my wife and daughter would go to work with me. Using the pass, they walked into the Employees entrances and took in as much of the parks as they could stand. I would meet them at noon and at times visit a restaurant for dinner. Completed our part on time and on schedule, then sued them and won for 7 million.
I detest Disney Corporate. Liars and thieves... But liked the parks all along.
6 days a week on site. Contractors pass. On Saturdays, my wife and daughter would go to work with me. Using the pass, they walked into the Employees entrances and took in as much of the parks as they could stand. I would meet them at noon and at times visit a restaurant for dinner. Completed our part on time and on schedule, then sued them and won for 7 million.
I detest Disney Corporate. Liars and thieves... But liked the parks all along.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:15 pm to concrete_tiger
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Imagine waiting for 2 hours to ride RoTR, and have them walk you past all the pre-show stuff?
Fine by me, I ignore most of that anyways, but I hearya.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:29 pm to lakeviewtiger
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Exited Epcot and not one cast member acknowledged anyone leaving.
The horror!!!
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:33 pm to lsupride87
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I used an actual Disney travel agent
Art of animation, 6 nights, only 4 tickets for 5 people(no park hopper, no genie, no food)
You booked a room for 6 and complain about the price. I just checked that room price for 5 random nights in October and they are all over $520. Lol. Dude stay at one of the Disney Springs hotels and get two separate connecting rooms. It will be far less.
I just looked at your dates. If you are staying on the Saturday November 19th, they are absolutely fricking you with the rate for that individual night. It’s $597.
I just looked at the Holiday Inn at Disney Springs for November 15th checking out the 20th. You can get two Two Queen Rooms there for $400-430 a night with taxes/fees included COMBINED. Their parking is $20/day. Free transportation to all the parks.
Just saved you $800 on your trip.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:39 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:We have three adults and 3 kids
You booked a room for 6 and complain about the price
You want us to all share a bed?
I priced the value result one bedroom that has a freaking table bed extra. Really going royalty here quote:Will come out to roughly $520 a night at the Disney springs double tree for the two bedroom hotel ….
Disney Springs hotels and get two separate connecting rooms. It will be far less.
quote:awesome. $5,500 now before all travel and food, and you don’t get Disney perks at all with your hotel choice. So a way to make Disney slightly cheaper is not doing Disney things. Brilliant
Just saved you $800 on your trip.
Just own it, there is no “affordable” way to do a Disney trip with a family
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 2:42 pm to lakeviewtiger
All I know is if you aren't at Disney or snow skiing with your family over Mardi Gras you are a terrible parent.
I am a terrible parent.
I am a terrible parent.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:08 pm to StringedInstruments
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It’s good hearing these reports. We’ve been planning on taking the kids, and the $3000+ budget expectations are unnerving. We’re not made of money, so Disney would probably end up being the biggest vacation we take our kids on in their elementary years.
Makes me very happy to know our vacation all over the American Frontier last Summer was smarter than Disney.
For about $4k we were able to take 4 kids on a 10 day 2900 mile road trip(fly MSY to Vegas, fly Denver to MSY)
Vegas(just sight-seeing the strip and video games at NY Hotel)
Hoover Dam
Grand Canyon
Zion National Park
Salt Lake City(Antelope Island State Park)
Yellowstone
Mt Rushmore
Royal Gorge
Garden of the Gods
Tour of Air Force Academy
White Water Rafting in Salida.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:15 pm
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