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The US overthrew the Yukanovych government in 2014

Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:24 am
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:24 am
Because he wanted closer ties with Russia and shunned NATO. Victoria Nuland and others in the Obama Administration worked to support neo-Nazis in Ukraine who helped stage a coup and implement a western puppet government. This is part of why Crimea held a referendum to leave and join Russia, which the US media portrayed as a forceful annexation. Nuland is back in the White House, as is Tony Blinken and other neo-Cold War interventionist zealots. We are responsible for this mess with decades of NATO expansion and playing war games in the region.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:26 am to
Unpopular truths there
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:34 am to
quote:

We are responsible for this mess with decades of NATO expansion and playing war games in the region.
To further that, in Dec Biden unexpectedly told Zelensky that Ukraine was given the green light to join NATO whenever it wanted to.


Then the US leaked that message to Putin. Seems an Ru vs Uk war was needed to distract from tanking poll numbers.
Posted by crewdepoo
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:37 am to
Can you translate that to Russian
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:37 am to
quote:

Seems an Ru vs Uk war was needed to distract from tanking poll numbers.


So narrow minded.

You really think this govt gives a rats arse about polling?

Their goal is global domination amd the new world order.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:41 am to
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You really think this govt gives a rats arse about polling?
They do, quite a lot actually.

Polling gives them a pretty accurate view of how their propaganda is working. It also gives them an estimate of what they need where to swing an election.
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:43 am to
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Polling gives them a pretty accurate view of how their propaganda is working. It also gives them an estimate of what they need where to swing an election.

so naive
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 5:46 am to
Everything in op is fact.

But Putin is responsible for unleashing this war.

But yes, our dirty fingerprints are on it too.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:02 am to
And here is what actually happened.

Yanukovich was so corrupt he was thrown out of his own party. It would be like kicking Ross Perot out of the Reform party or Ralph Nader out of the Green Party.

Check out his house - not his official government palace (his white house) I mean the house he swore he got from his government salary and "gifts from friends who are friends".











Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:04 am to
Outside -



Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:21 am to
You are missing the point of the OP, we lit the fuse fellas, to say "oh we didnt cause the explosion" is nonsense. No different than this whole covid disaster (although in that case I believe we did more than just light the fuse).

Nice pics, have any of Pelosi's vineyard estate in Cali, her "city home" in San Fran, or the new vacation digs in Florida, amazing what you can afford on a govt salary for life. Though she did inherit money from her dad....who was on a govt salary for life.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:24 am to
No, Pelosi married into money.

That's what marrying a Harvard MBA gets you.

LINK
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:24 am to
You are dense.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:47 am to
Newsflash: politicians are corrupt.

Thanks Eurocat.

We must tell others.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:50 am to
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No, Pelosi married into money.

That's what marrying a Harvard MBA gets you.


No, marrying a politician with insider knowledge of laws and regs she is passing....gets you money. You would be absolutely amazed at the "winners" her husband's investment firms picks, its truly incredible.

Bet you believe bidens net worth listed is accurate as well, and he never discusses business dealings with hunter, right. Dont get me wrong, there are Romneys McCains, McConells, its truly bipartisan, just dont be naive regarding ole nancy.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:53 am to
How could you forget the ship?

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16789 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:53 am to
Her Husband was an early investor in facebook. That's his money source. Pelosi couldn't have known that facebook would turn into facebook. There were all sorts of websites back then.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 6:56 am to
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We are responsible for this mess with decades of NATO expansion and playing war games in the region.

NATO expansion is no excuse for Russia invading Ukraine.

The government we allegedly installed via coup isn't even in power and I don't think anyone doubts the legitimacy of the current regime. Russia kind of/sort of got a pass for invading Ukraine to steal Crimea due to the coup, but that excuse died a while back.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 7:01 am to
LOL! Too funny, I missed that one.

This one too -



Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 7:02 am to
Anybody who makes a portrait of himself as Caesar gets an automatic coup on principle.
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