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Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:15 am to sta4ever
It shows at the top for me.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:26 am to facher08
Putin notes that the FSB is the guarantor for Russia.
Imagine any US president claiming that the CIA is that here.
Why aren't politards melting over this?
Imagine any US president claiming that the CIA is that here.
Why aren't politards melting over this?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:27 am to ColtRange
Ukes lost 2 million and the Russians are only going 1000 feet per day? What’s going on?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:51 am to IAmNERD
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There is a good series that's pretty new on Netflix called "Turning Point: The Bomb and the Cold War." The last episode I watched was focusing on the Soviet Union's collapse. There was some guy who's name I can't recall, but his job was basically making sure that no nukes disappeared from Soviet states and fell into the wrong hands. Condoleezza Rice talks about these secret meetings they had daily for several weeks where they gamed out every scenario of the Soviet collapse: Military coup, political coup, should we help a coup along, should we warn Gorbachev he was going down, should we help them out...
Really interesting to get a glimpse of what was going down then. So much happened in such a short period of time it had to be crazy to wrap your mind around being in high level politics like that at the time.
I remember it well. The owner of the big video production facility I worked for was going back and forth to Russia at the time meeting with high level media people. They knew it was going down and were looking to create a media production empire afterward. They did.
After the collapse, Yeltsin's body guard for social events came to NYC. He was an animator who had a black belt in Judo. They wanted to do new openings for the Russian TV networks to replace the 1950's style art cards they used. After the programmers they brought with them crashed the machines constantly for three days, the job was handed to me. In a couple of days they had two new American network style flying logo ID's. Seeing that kind of change on TV not long after Yeltsin came to power was like a promise for a better future.
Yeah, there was great concern about all of those nukes floating around.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 8:55 am to doubleb
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Ukes lost 2 million and the Russians are only going 1000 feet per day? What’s going on?
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"In attritional wars, military operations are shaped by a state's ability to replace losses and generate new formations, not tactical and operational manoeuvres," retired US Army lieutenant colonel Alex Vershinin explained in a Royal United Services Institute commentary, "The Attritional Art of War: Lessons from the Russian War on Ukraine," published Monday. Unlike maneuver warfare, which is aimed at quickly and violently defeating an enemy, the attritional fight takes time, maybe years. "The side that accepts the attritional nature of war and focuses on destroying enemy forces rather than gaining terrain is most likely to win. The West is not prepared for this kind of war," he said. Vershinin noted that Western militaries have long seen attritional conflicts as exceptions to be avoided at all costs in favor of the shorter, maneuver-focused clashes. Rather than a "decisive battle" through maneuver warfare, "attritional warfare focuses on destroying enemy forces and their ability to regenerate combat power, while preserving one's own," he wrote, noting that a successful attritional strategy "accepts that the war will last at least two years."
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 9:58 am to Bunk Moreland
It’s working. Two million casualties in just over 2 years!!
That’s more than France, UK and the US had in all of WW2.
That’s more than France, UK and the US had in all of WW2.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:29 am to doubleb
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It’s working. Two million casualties in just over 2 years!!
That’s more than France, UK and the US had in all of WW2.
Pretty sure he's including fighting age men who fled the country.
Like these guys were trying to do.
Azov Deputy Commander suggests giving him a list so they can hunt for conscripts themselves.
The Ukrainian economy is so screwed...but yeah, let's give them a waivable loan.
This thing is over, it's just a matter of when. We can keep pretending another military aid package will make the difference, but deep down, even y'all know it wont.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:45 am to ColtRange
Hey, any reason you don't post the source?
Like, you post the video, and a news article with the headline/source clipped. Why is that?
*ETA - Just saw this:
Well, unsticky the post, the war is over and Ukraine lost. Again!
Like, you post the video, and a news article with the headline/source clipped. Why is that?
*ETA - Just saw this:
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This thing is over, it's just a matter of when. We can keep pretending another military aid package will make the difference, but deep down, even y'all know it wont.
Well, unsticky the post, the war is over and Ukraine lost. Again!
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:00 am to ColtRange
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This thing is over, it's just a matter of when. We can keep pretending another military aid package will make the difference, but deep down, even y'all know it wont.
There needs to be a grownup step into the negotiation room, get the two sides together, and end this.
It won’t be a European or Chinese leader, and it won’t be Biden.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:01 am to Bunk Moreland
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, "attritional warfare focuses on destroying enemy forces and their ability to regenerate combat power, while preserving one's own,"
It's the bolded part Russia's having trouble with.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:11 am to PrecedentedTimes
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:28 am to ColtRange
So he’s counting refugees fleeing Ukraine as “losses”?
But people are framing his comments as if Russia is grinding Ukraine down by the millions.
It’s disingenuous.
Russia has the momentum, they are wearing Ukraine down, but Ukraine is still putting up a very strong resistance. And if aid was supplied in a more timely manner, Russia eill suffer even more.
But people are framing his comments as if Russia is grinding Ukraine down by the millions.
It’s disingenuous.
Russia has the momentum, they are wearing Ukraine down, but Ukraine is still putting up a very strong resistance. And if aid was supplied in a more timely manner, Russia eill suffer even more.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:29 am to riverdiver
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It won’t be a European or Chinese leader, and it won’t be Biden.
It won’t be anybody. Putin isn’t going to negotiate.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:47 am to doubleb
I think General Andrzejczak is talking about casualties, and that the total has passed a million.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:51 am to riverdiver
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There needs to be a grownup step into the negotiation room, get the two sides together, and end this.
It won’t be a European or Chinese leader, and it won’t be Biden.
Neither side is interested in negotiations. The Russians think they have all the momentum and the Ukr government doesn't want to give up territory, which realistically any negotiated settlement would have them losing at least some territory. So the stalemate continues.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:58 am to Lima Whiskey
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I think General Andrzejczak is talking about casualties, and that the total has passed a million.
But that isn’t what he is quoted as saying.
It’s just what you want him to say.
I don’t believe either side has suffered a million casualties.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:13 pm to Lima Whiskey
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I think General Andrzejczak is talking about casualties, and that the total has passed a million.
Holodomor wasn’t real, but Ukraine has lost a million men. This is the pathology of someone who goes on to shoot up a grocery store.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:14 pm to mattfromnj
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Neither side is interested in negotiations. The Russians think they have all the momentum and the Ukr government doesn't want to give up territory, which realistically any negotiated settlement would have them losing at least some territory. So the stalemate continues.
The big sticking point is Russia demanding "neutrality" from Ukraine.
Russia's peace requirements:
1) Ukraine must disarm and eliminate its current army
2) Ukraine's current government must resign/quit
3) Russia will oversee the election/implementation of a new government
4) Ukraine may not join EU/NATO now or ever
The last point is the non-starter. Ukraine has "joining the EU/moving towards joining the EU" as a staple in their constitution.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:19 pm to doubleb
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It won’t be anybody. Putin isn’t going to negotiate
There have already been a couple of windows to negotiate. Britain and the US shot those chances down.
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