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2022 NBA draft order tracker
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/15/22 at 12:47 pm
we are 70% of the way completed.
pels have 25 games left
here are the standings
to recap, the NOP pick stays here 1-4, goes to POR 5-14, goes to CHA 15- 30. the LAL pick goes to NOP if 1- 10, MEM if 11- 30.
if the NOP 1st does not go to CHA, CHA gets NOP 2nd round pick (currently 38). NOP will get #54 & #55 from previous trades. NOP gets SAC 2nd if its 30 or better (currently 36 and not coming).
pels have 25 games left
here are the standings
to recap, the NOP pick stays here 1-4, goes to POR 5-14, goes to CHA 15- 30. the LAL pick goes to NOP if 1- 10, MEM if 11- 30.
if the NOP 1st does not go to CHA, CHA gets NOP 2nd round pick (currently 38). NOP will get #54 & #55 from previous trades. NOP gets SAC 2nd if its 30 or better (currently 36 and not coming).
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Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:06 pm to cgrand
Honestly, the best case scenario for us would be:
Lakers get knocked out of play in by us, Portland and/or Sacramento and end up with top 10 pick
We lose 1 of the 2 play in games
That would mean we end up with a top 10 pick from the Lakers
Our pick goes to Portland
2 seconds go to Memphis
2 seconds go to Charlotte
That would give us a 1st round pick this year, and end all of our future pick obligations, enabling us to trade away as many 1sts as we need/want to to grab an upgrade at the 2.
Lakers get knocked out of play in by us, Portland and/or Sacramento and end up with top 10 pick
We lose 1 of the 2 play in games
That would mean we end up with a top 10 pick from the Lakers
Our pick goes to Portland
2 seconds go to Memphis
2 seconds go to Charlotte
That would give us a 1st round pick this year, and end all of our future pick obligations, enabling us to trade away as many 1sts as we need/want to to grab an upgrade at the 2.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:08 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
Honestly, the best case scenario for us would be:
Lakers get knocked out of play in by us, Portland and/or Sacramento and end up with top 10 pick
We lose 1 of the 2 play in games
That would mean we end up with a top 10 pick from the Lakers
Our pick goes to Portland
2 seconds go to Memphis
2 seconds go to Charlotte
That would give us a 1st round pick this year, and end all of our future pick obligations, enabling us to trade away as many 1sts as we need/want to to grab an upgrade at the 2.
Checks out
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:11 pm to Soggymoss
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Soggymoss
We are getting two top 4 picks this year man.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:21 pm to Soggymoss
Best case scenario is the Lakers and us don't make the playoffs and each team gets a top 3 pick. Then we'd have 2 picks in the top 3!
But seriously if we don't make the playoffs and the Lakers get in as an 8 seed and lose in the first round, then we would only miss out on 2 mid first round picks, which isn't bad at all.
But seriously if we don't make the playoffs and the Lakers get in as an 8 seed and lose in the first round, then we would only miss out on 2 mid first round picks, which isn't bad at all.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:27 pm to Mystery
to recap the play-in tournament:
draft order consequences for play-in teams (7, 8, 9, 10)
quote:
The Play in tournament will be played between April 12 and 15, 2022, the new format consists of teams ranked 7-10 from the regular season playing against each other to dispute a place in the playoffs. Teams 7 and 8 from each conference will have to fight to defend their positions for the playoffs, they will play a round of three games.
The winner of that round mentioned above gets the 7th spot in the playoffs. The loser of that round must play the a game against the winner team of the 9th and 10th matchup of the play in tournament. The last game will be between the loser of the first round (7th-8th team) and the winner of the second round game (9th-10th team), the team that wins that game enters the playoffs as the 8th seeded team.
draft order consequences for play-in teams (7, 8, 9, 10)
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If a 9th or 10th seeded team manages to win both of its games in the tournament it will no longer participate in the NBA Draft Lottery. Similarly, to sneak into the Draft Lotery, a 7th or 8th seeded team will need to lose both of its games in the tournament.
What if the 9th or 10th seeded teams win exactly one game? In that case, the team is still lottery-bound and its lottery odds are in a sense unaffected and are still calculated based on its regular season (72 game) winning percentage.
Similar logic applies, say, to a 7th seeded team that dropped to 8th after the play-in tournament: the picks it owns in the Draft (in the range 15-60) will still be ordered according to the regular-season record.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:29 pm to cgrand
this was last years play-in tournament bracket (will be the same this year)
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Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:53 pm to saintslsupels
quote:
Best case scenario is the Lakers and us don't make the playoffs and each team gets a top 3 pick. Then we'd have 2 picks in the top 3!
Yes and no, do we really have the room to take on 2 more young players and train them up?
2 top 3 picks would be great to trade this offseason, but realistically who would be available this offseason? I don't see OKC trading SGA unless he asks out.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 1:56 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Give me 2 top 3 picks, and we'll figure the rest out later.
Yes and no, do we really have the room to take on 2 more young players and train them up?
2 top 3 picks would be great to trade this offseason, but realistically who would be available this offseason? I don't see OKC trading SGA unless he asks out.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:09 pm to Soggymoss
Wrong, eventually the 1st round pick turns into 2nd round picks... which in writing look like pick swaps and not straight trades. That is the one going to Portland. If we hit top 4 this year and hit top 4 with the 2025 pick from the bucks the Blazers get peanuts on 2026 and 2027.
Best case to me though is winning the play in and competing in the playoffs because this team right now is WAY better than this team at the beginning of the season. IF Zion comes back with enough games to fit in with the team there isn't a single team that would want to play the Pels in the playoffs. I don't see us getting to a legit playoff spot this year but I would be disappointed if we don't hit a good playoff spot next year. Too much talent has been added to the roster, some through dumb luck, but I think it is better to be lucky than skilled in many circumstances. If we for some reason don't make it into the playoffs, the best case is getting a top 4 pick this year from our pick.
Best case to me though is winning the play in and competing in the playoffs because this team right now is WAY better than this team at the beginning of the season. IF Zion comes back with enough games to fit in with the team there isn't a single team that would want to play the Pels in the playoffs. I don't see us getting to a legit playoff spot this year but I would be disappointed if we don't hit a good playoff spot next year. Too much talent has been added to the roster, some through dumb luck, but I think it is better to be lucky than skilled in many circumstances. If we for some reason don't make it into the playoffs, the best case is getting a top 4 pick this year from our pick.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:11 pm to shel311
I'm also trying to be realistic in laying out a best case scenario, but 2 top 3 picks in a big man draft when we are already loaded with big men is not ideal.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:14 pm to armsdealer
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Wrong
Where? The pick traded goes to Portland if it lands 5-14, and if it does convey this season it ends all pick obligations to Portland, and it also ends picks sent to Charlotte for Graham by converting that trade to 2 2nds.
Literally no part of what I typed out is wrong.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:45 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
Where? The pick traded goes to Portland if it lands 5-14, and if it does convey this season it ends all pick obligations to Portland, and it also ends picks sent to Charlotte for Graham by converting that trade to 2 2nds.
Literally no part of what I typed out is wrong.
I 'think' he's saying you're wrong because the best case scenario would be if that pick going to Portland never materialized ever. This is not a very realistic scenario though as the Bucks pick is only top 4 protected in 2025.
quote:https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2022 first round draft pick to Portland
New Orleans' 2022 1st round pick to Portland protected for selections 1-4 and 15-30; if this pick falls within either of its protected ranges and is therefore not conveyed, then New Orleans will instead convey Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to Portland protected for selections 1-4 (if the Milwaukee pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then New Orleans' obligation to Portland will be extinguished
Posted on 2/15/22 at 2:58 pm to Mickey Goldmill
"best case" for me is
1) pels are 8-seed or better after the play-in (thus, no chance at their pick being top-4); pels pick goes to CHA (obligation to CHA extinguished), POR gets the 2025 top-4 protected MIL pick. pels keep their 2nd round pick.
2) LAL is top 10, pels get it
not that complicated
1) pels are 8-seed or better after the play-in (thus, no chance at their pick being top-4); pels pick goes to CHA (obligation to CHA extinguished), POR gets the 2025 top-4 protected MIL pick. pels keep their 2nd round pick.
2) LAL is top 10, pels get it
not that complicated
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:44 pm to Soggymoss
If the pels get #1 and #3(I luckily got that simulation in tankathon)
Do you draft Jabari Smith and Ivey?
Or do you draft the former and use #3 to get the best guard possible in a trade?
Do you draft Jabari Smith and Ivey?
Or do you draft the former and use #3 to get the best guard possible in a trade?
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:46 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
Where? The pick traded goes to Portland if it lands 5-14, and if it does convey this season it ends all pick obligations to Portland, and it also ends picks sent to Charlotte for Graham by converting that trade to 2 2nds.
Literally no part of what I typed out is wrong.
Did you miss the part where the Portland pick can convert to two second round picks in 26-27??? It reads like they are pick swaps, but I am not 100% sure on that.
Even if we don't need two top 4 picks this year, a top 4 pick is very valuable to trade to upgrade a position of need.
You are already wrong, don't double down on being stupid too.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:49 pm to LosLobos111
quote:I like the idea of making 1 pick and trading another.
If the pels get #1 and #3(I luckily got that simulation in tankathon)
Do you draft Jabari Smith and Ivey?
I'd just wonder if we can really afford all these contracts though, pending just how far into the tax we'd be willing to dip.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 3:56 pm to armsdealer
quote:
Did you miss the part where the Portland pick can convert to two second round picks in 26-27??? It reads like they are pick swaps, but I am not 100% sure on that.
Even if we don't need two top 4 picks this year, a top 4 pick is very valuable to trade to upgrade a position of need.
You are already wrong, don't double down on being stupid too.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're wrong here.
There is no 'converting to 2nd round picks' in play here.
quote:
2022 first round draft pick to Portland
New Orleans' 2022 1st round pick to Portland protected for selections 1-4 and 15-30; if this pick falls within either of its protected ranges and is therefore not conveyed, then New Orleans will instead convey Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to Portland protected for selections 1-4 (if the Milwaukee pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then New Orleans' obligation to Portland will be extinguished) [New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022]
2026 second round draft pick to Portland (effectively a swap, Portland incoming)
Portland will receive the more favorable of its 2026 2nd round pick and New Orleans' 2026 2nd round pick and New Orleans will receive the less favorable of the two (via New Orleans) [New Orleans-Portland, 7/30/2021; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022]
2027 second round draft pick to Portland
New Orleans' 2027 2nd round pick to Portland [New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022]
Posted on 2/15/22 at 4:33 pm to armsdealer
quote:
Did you miss the part where the Portland pick can convert to two second round picks in 26-27???
he probably did, because...that option doesnt exist
quote:
You are already wrong, don't double down on being stupid too.
it appears you are both in this instance
Posted on 2/15/22 at 6:13 pm to armsdealer
quote:
Did you miss the part where the Portland pick can convert to two second round picks in 26-27???
Did you miss the part where I stated that ideally you want the pick to convert this season and 2 2nds go to Charlotte which then frees up all of our 1st round future picks to be used in a trade?
quote:
very valuable to trade to upgrade a position of need
And as I stated, unless SGA asks out this offseason, there's nobody available to trade for that would be available and be an upgrade over what we have. You also have to factor in salaries when making a trade, and right now Graham at 12 million and Temple at 5 million would really be our only useful salary unless you're trading Jonas, which is doubtful.
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 6:15 pm
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