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Russia threatens power grids if Biden moves in Ukraine *Updated

Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:59 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:59 pm
UPDATE: Here are two more articles. This warning of a threat from Russia came from DHS, & former DHS saying this warning underscores the threat to Americans..

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A "sophisticated, targeted cyberattack" could knock out large portions of the U.S. power grid for 9 to 18 months, cybersecurity consultant Joe Weiss told Utility Dive. Such an attack would be "irrecoverable," he said.

Could terrorists really black out the power grid ...
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Homeland Security warns that Russia could launch cyberattack against US

WASHINGTON – A new Department of Homeland Security bulletin warns that Russia could launch a cyberattack against U.S. targets on American soil if it believes Washington’s response to its potential invasion of Ukraine threatens its long-term national security.

DHS blasted out the memo Sunday to U.S. critical infrastructure operators and state and local governments around the country, warning that “Russia maintains a range of offensive cyber tools that it could employ against U.S. networks” that make everything from planes to hospitals to dams and bridges operate.

Separately, a well-respected private cybersecurity firm leader warns that while “cyber espionage is already a regular facet of global activity, as the situation deteriorates, we are likely to see more aggressive information operations and disruptive cyberattacks within and outside of Ukraine.”

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“The crisis in Ukraine has already proven to be a catalyst for additional aggressive cyber activity that will likely increase as the situation deteriorates,” wrote John Hultquist, vice president of threat intelligence for Mandiant, a cybersecurity firm that provides services to private enterprises, governments and law enforcement agencies worldwide.

“At Mandiant, we have been anticipating this activity, and we are concerned that, unlike the recent defacements and destructive attacks, future activity will not be restricted to Ukrainian targets or the public sector," Hultquist wrote in his Jan. 20 online report.

Paul Rosenzweig, a former senior Homeland Security official, said the DHS Intelligence and Analysis bulletin underscores how even U.S. efforts to help avert a potential military conflict thousands of miles away has the potential to cause real harm to Americans here at home.

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The nation’s leading expert on protecting the electric grid from attack urges governors to take the lead because the Biden administration won’t.

In a new alert, Peter Vincent Pry, the executive director of the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security, said concerns are growing that Russia, North Korea, and Iran are inching closer to testing an electromagnetic attack on the U.S. grid, or parts of it.

He noted the current crisis in Ukraine could spark a Russian attack, and he cited state media making the threat in the past.

“In April 2021, during the previous big crisis between Russia versus the U.S. and NATO over Ukraine, Moscow’s state-run TV broadcast to the world that: ‘War is inevitable…it will be a Cyber War,’” Pry said in his note, shown below.

He said Florida has been threatened “to deter the U.S. from helping Ukraine.”

And he said just last month, a member of the Russian Duma (the country's Congress) “proposed warning Washington that Moscow is serious about nuclear war over Ukraine — by launching a hypersonic warhead to detonate on or over the Nevada nuclear test area. A nuclear or non-nuclear EMP demonstration could blackout Nevada or the entire Western Grid.”
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Former President Donald Trump took some steps to protect grids around the country, but they remain open to either an attack or a natural hit from a solar flare.

With Washington stalled, he suggested governors take the lead and even drafted a model executive order they could use.

“The White House and Congress have tried to protect the nation’s electric grids and other life-sustaining critical infrastructures through executive orders and legislation. But federal departments, agencies, and regulatory bodies, through incompetence or corruption or both, have all failed to make our nation safe from EMP and Cyber Warfare,” he said.

In a recent report on the impact of a power grid outage, Pry warned that up to 90% of the U.S. population could die during a year without power.


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This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 4:08 am
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:01 pm to
What secretary is over the power grid and how screwed are we?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:02 pm to
This is the difference between wars we have fought since WW2: Russia has the capability of bringing the fight to us.
Posted by boston vol
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Member since Sep 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:03 pm to
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What secretary is over the power grid and how screwed are we?

I would assume the Department of Energy.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87401 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:03 pm to
An emp is not a cyber attack.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 8:04 pm
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13103 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:05 pm to
Well that would surpass China Covid-19 attempt to wipe out America.

If I gotta go I know the Russians and Chinese will go too.

Then it’s up to the creator to take it from there.

Posted by themunch
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:07 pm to
The headline

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Russia threatens power grids if Biden moves in Ukraine




The fictional news story.



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He noted the current crisis in Ukraine could


These are mental midgets with misinformation.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 8:10 pm
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:07 pm to
Damage the grid enough and we will be fighting ourselves. Swaths of land will be essentially unlivable.

Its an interesting thought.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87401 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:08 pm to
The whole story is mostly a fabrication combined with a misunderstanding of the grid and how it’s powered.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87401 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:09 pm to
The grid isn’t vulnerable to and EMP like this story is asserting. A year without power?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:09 pm to
It sounds like Trump was the only President that started to do something about this; and this guy is warning that the threat is there but no one is really home in DC... And no one has really cared in DC for 30 years.

So we are left with Vindman, Fiona Hill types at the State Dept and that big ugly bastard bulldog Milley. They are idiots that are compromised.

Good question. I am not sure who the big dog in DC is that is in charge of this? It is national security, so DOD, DHS?
Posted by sawtooth
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Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:09 pm to
Is Ukraine still a thing?

Who cares. Move on.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32609 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Russia threatens power grids if Biden moves in Ukraine



More Biden propaganda
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
163261 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:11 pm to
I thought this same thing. But I am presuming that they meant the threat and capability are real.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:11 pm to
I will just live in Metaverse if they turn off the power grid here.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:11 pm to
Bring on the cannibalism!

Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:12 pm to
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The grid isn’t vulnerable to and EMP like this story is asserting.


There are a shite load of microprocessor based protection/controls in the grid’s infrastructure.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:14 pm to
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What secretary is over the power grid and how screwed are we?
Probably some purple/pink-haired chick with a dick if I had to guess.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
163261 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:17 pm to
I think this is twofold. Biden wants this out there so he doesn't look like a gigantic weak arse wussy letting Russia do as it pleases, and building their pipeline.

As well as, after I read about the Senator that went off the grid-The threat is there.

I think this guy is saying DC has done nothing on this issue for far too many years.

Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37469 posts
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:18 pm to
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I will just live in Metaverse if they turn off the power grid here.
EMP fries everything electric. Might want to unlock your gun safe if it has an electric combination lock. Probably won't matter, your frozen food would be ruined in a few days, the poli board will be fried as well as the laptop you are viewing from.
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