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re: Today’s music sucks, that’s why!
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:26 am to AUCom96
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:26 am to AUCom96
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When you're getting less than penny royalties for the streaming plays that make up the bulk of today's music consumption, when artist recognition and album appreciation has been replaced by "stations" and random playlists forever running in the background, when live music is more of a high dollar social event than a diverse, affordable and available enterprise, when cover bands outperform original recording acts...
Then you have a world where the rules are set by bankers, not artists. And this is what you get...a music scene where you have to dig through miles of putrid crap to find one halfway decent offering
When I read this, it called to mind these controversies of the late 1990s / early 2000s around (I think) Napster and the general idea that people ought to have music, etc. for free. At the time my thought was that if $12-an-album music still had room for Shaggy, Sean Paul, and the Insane Clown Posse, then I certainly didn't want to hear free music. Looking back, there was probably some wisdom to that.
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Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:34 am to LSUBoo
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Today’s pop music sucks, that’s why! Fixed it. There is still plenty of good music being made out there.
Country today is awful. At least the mainstream is
Rock is non existent
Even Rap has gotten worse. Mid to late 2000s had some decent rap
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:40 am to Geekboy
One consequence of the social media revolution was for society to become significantly more segmented. Not only does social media allow for people with fringe interests and tastes to find like minded peers around the globe, but it also has the ability to isolate those folks within that bubble. With social media and streaming, people largely create their own media bubbles. If you’re willing to pay for premium, you don’t even have to hear ads, and through your likes, subscriptions, and dislikes, the algorithms will deliver your bubble straight to you!
What this results in is rather than there being a popular music culture and maybe a half dozen subcultures, there are instead thousands of subcultures, most of which never talk to each other. Because the parent companies of all major labels are owned by like 3 companies, they collude rather than compete and control the largest of the subculture bubbles. As a result, only artists who achieve success in one of the label-controlled bubbles can really generate enough money and renown to become “famous”. Very few bands in any other subculture bubble can earn enough from streaming or performing to make a living at it permanently.
With society so fractured and the upper tiers of the music industry so highly controlled, there is almost no ladder for bands to reach the kinds of market penetration and general renown that existed for big time artists prior to roughly 2005. It’s just not feasible to pierce enough bubbles to get enough folks to know who you are and be a huge fan. The “rock star machine” is broken, and the media and labels basically cannot produce new rock stars as a result. Thus, they stick to milking old rock stars who already had fams before the system collapsed in on itself.
What this results in is rather than there being a popular music culture and maybe a half dozen subcultures, there are instead thousands of subcultures, most of which never talk to each other. Because the parent companies of all major labels are owned by like 3 companies, they collude rather than compete and control the largest of the subculture bubbles. As a result, only artists who achieve success in one of the label-controlled bubbles can really generate enough money and renown to become “famous”. Very few bands in any other subculture bubble can earn enough from streaming or performing to make a living at it permanently.
With society so fractured and the upper tiers of the music industry so highly controlled, there is almost no ladder for bands to reach the kinds of market penetration and general renown that existed for big time artists prior to roughly 2005. It’s just not feasible to pierce enough bubbles to get enough folks to know who you are and be a huge fan. The “rock star machine” is broken, and the media and labels basically cannot produce new rock stars as a result. Thus, they stick to milking old rock stars who already had fams before the system collapsed in on itself.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:49 am to Geekboy
Isbell sucks
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:20 am to Geekboy
I don't know how to download videos----yeah, I'm that lame.
But if you want to see and hear what I call the # 1, all time live performance of a song, check out Bobby Hatfield singing "Unchained Melody" on the old "Andy Williams Show" from 1965. He is one half of the team "The Righteous Brothers". Bill Medley took a back seat on this performance.
It's just him, his microphone, the orchestra and a stage----and he fricking nails it.
I dare to say there's not a singer today that could pull that off as effortlessly as he did.
But if you want to see and hear what I call the # 1, all time live performance of a song, check out Bobby Hatfield singing "Unchained Melody" on the old "Andy Williams Show" from 1965. He is one half of the team "The Righteous Brothers". Bill Medley took a back seat on this performance.
It's just him, his microphone, the orchestra and a stage----and he fricking nails it.
I dare to say there's not a singer today that could pull that off as effortlessly as he did.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:21 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:Thanks! Just bought it!
Have at it.
Invincible Soundtrack listing
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:24 am to gumbo2176
quote:While that is very good, I'd disagree with it being #1, and submit this:
But if you want to see and hear what I call the # 1, all time live performance of a song, check out Bobby Hatfield singing "Unchained Melody" on the old "Andy Williams Show" from 1965. He is one half of the team "The Righteous Brothers". Bill Medley took a back seat on this performance.
LINK
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:27 am to greygoose
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I caught the Mark Wahlburg movie "Invincible" on tv yesterday. I saw it several years ago, when it first came out, but not since then. The thing that immediately struck me, was the soundtrack. Classic 70's music. Now I'm looking to buy it, or at least get a list of the songs and buy individually.
I’ve got the soundtrack CD. It’s excellent.
I used to have the DVD but I guess I got rid of it. I actually went to watch it again a couple weeks ago and discovered it was gone. It’s a pretty cheesy movie but it’s all to set up the ending which is really cool. And then they run footage from the actual game during the closing credits. That was a nice touch.
How Long by Ace is such a great song.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:29 am to greygoose
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While that is very good, I'd disagree with it being #1, and submit this:
And I will disagree with you simply on vocal range and different levels of octaves Hatfield hit in his song---and with perfect clarity.
Opinions vary and I'll stick with mine.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:37 am to Treacherous Cretin
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I’ve got the soundtrack CD. It’s excellent.
I used to have the DVD but I guess I got rid of it. I actually went to watch it again a couple weeks ago and discovered it was gone. It’s a pretty cheesy movie but it’s all to set up the ending which is really cool. And then they run footage from the actual game during the closing credits. That was a nice touch.
How Long by Ace is such a great song.
quote:Jim Croce just has a way of giving instant mellow. That dude could sing the alphabet song, and relax me!
I’ve got the soundtrack CD. It’s excellent.
I used to have the DVD but I guess I got rid of it. I actually went to watch it again a couple weeks ago and discovered it was gone. It’s a pretty cheesy movie but it’s all to set up the ending which is really cool. And then they run footage from the actual game during the closing credits. That was a nice touch.
How Long by Ace is such a great song.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:39 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Creativity is dead.
No, physical media (outside of the few who buy vinyl) is dead. Access is at an all time high, but people are just streaming it for free. Like everything, it all comes down to $$$.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:49 am to deltaland
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Rock is non existent
Eh, I don't know about that.
Just 2021 albums...
Manchester Orchestra - The Million Masks Of God
Nothing But Thieves - Moral Panic 2
Sam Fender - Seventeen Going Under
Biffy Clyro - The Myth Of Happily Ever After
The War On Drugs - I Don't Live Here Anymore
The Record Company - Play Loud
That's not overwhelming, but better than nothing.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 10:58 am to Geekboy
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Nearly a third of the iTunes Top 100
Only old people listen to itunes. Kids today are hip to cassettes.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:06 am to gumbo2176
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I don't know how to download videos----yeah, I'm that lame. But if you want to see and hear what I call the # 1, all time live performance of a song, check out Bobby Hatfield singing "Unchained Melody" on the old "Andy Williams Show" from 1965. He is one half of the team "The Righteous Brothers". Bill Medley took a back seat on this performance. It's just him, his microphone, the orchestra and a stage----and he fricking nails it.
LINK
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:16 am to DeltaTigerDelta
"You da' man" Thanks for the link.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:23 am to Geekboy
Old man yells at sky
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:41 am to Geekboy
You got to love the "Good music is out there. You just have to know where to look for it" replies that always come up on this topic.
Push the cream to the top and people will find it. Promote these bands that are supposedly making great music and give them some success. That's how it's always worked.
It just seems hard to believe that there's this massive void in good music that has existed for 20+ years and there is all of this great music that could be filling it, if only people could find it.
Now tell us how great contemporary movies are.
Push the cream to the top and people will find it. Promote these bands that are supposedly making great music and give them some success. That's how it's always worked.
It just seems hard to believe that there's this massive void in good music that has existed for 20+ years and there is all of this great music that could be filling it, if only people could find it.
Now tell us how great contemporary movies are.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:49 am to DaleGribble
Great music is being made in 2022. You just won’t find it on pop terrestrial radio.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 11:57 am to DaleGribble
I threw out 6 albums (technically 5 albums and an EP) from 2021 that I really enjoy just from the general "rock" genre. From those albums combined I've heard one track player on the radio, and it was on the local college radio station.
To be fair... 3 of them were from British bands, and they probably do get more airtime over there, but we've never had a problem playing British artists on the radio before, and still do if it's someone like Adele.
To be fair... 3 of them were from British bands, and they probably do get more airtime over there, but we've never had a problem playing British artists on the radio before, and still do if it's someone like Adele.
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Now tell us how great contemporary movies are.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:19 pm to LSUBoo
The music industry has definitely changed. But I would think that record labels still want to make money. The demand for good music should still be there.
I was still in my 20s when I noticed that the quality of music in most genres had drastically dropped. My solution was to start tuning it out and trying to discover great music from the past(and exploring other genres). Maybe a lot of other people have did the same and the demand really isn't there anymore.
Regardless, I can't see anyone from the 2040s looking back at the 2010s or 2020s and thinking "damn, why don't we have music like this anymore?"
I was still in my 20s when I noticed that the quality of music in most genres had drastically dropped. My solution was to start tuning it out and trying to discover great music from the past(and exploring other genres). Maybe a lot of other people have did the same and the demand really isn't there anymore.
Regardless, I can't see anyone from the 2040s looking back at the 2010s or 2020s and thinking "damn, why don't we have music like this anymore?"
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