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Will Jon Gruden ever tell his side of the story

Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:03 pm
I was never really a Gruden fan but he never bothered me. It's not like I'd go out of my way to hear his calls when he was on ESPN, nor rooted for/against him at the Raiders/Bucs/Raiders.

But the way he got railroaded was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen in sports, and it almost immediately rallied me to his defense. I didn't agree with anything he said in the emails but to take private correspondence and then leak it (very strategically), it was just so fricking dirty and wrong.

The question I have is this... Whats gonna be his next move? He's suing the league and Goodell but I want him to take it farther than that. Hopefully he doesn't settle with them, in turn probably gagging him from blasting them publicly. I'd like to see him write a tell all book, maybe do a regular podcast on football analysis, etc.

So while I was never a fan, the crooked people running this league behind the scenes sorta made me one.
Posted by undkeith
Germantown
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:06 pm to
Rubber lips lol
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4061 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:06 pm to
I think there is a big lawsuit in which he wants them to release everything.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:09 pm to
He can say it was screwed up how they exposed only him but he still said all the stuff.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:10 pm to
I don’t know but who still uses the word “queers” these days.
Posted by bad93ex
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Member since Sep 2018
33970 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:12 pm to
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I don’t know but who still uses the word “queers” these days.



What does the "Q" in LGBTQIA2+Y stand for?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:22 pm to
What story do you think he has to tell? He’s said legitimately racist & sexist & homophobic things and did not deserve to be in the league

Outside of throwing others under the bus, he has nothing to say
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20052 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:31 pm to
He’s an idiot for typing that stuff which lasts forever.

I think just his emails getting realized was an unfair shake.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3584 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:36 pm to
He said them in private conversations 10 years ago. If anyone had access to what we said and did in private conversations in our past then we would all be fricked.

Now you could argue he should never have put those in emails that could be saved and that it was dumb but whatever.
Posted by huskerdawg5
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

What story do you think he has to tell? He’s said legitimately racist & sexist & homophobic things and did not deserve to be in the league


Should I list all the players who committed felonies and were later allowed to play in the NFL? What crime did Gruden commit again?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:46 pm to
What would his side be?

Everyone knows what he wrote in the emails. There's no angle other than our opinions of the content.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31347 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:53 pm to
John Gruden has a fear of homos?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27570 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:53 pm to
He has nothing to say. Other than burn the whole place down if any people were on the other side of those texts echoed the same terms.


His best bet is to lay low and hope for a casino job. Doing commentary for a high end casinos gambling show.
Posted by JFT96
Member since Dec 2021
672 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:07 pm to
Most coaches are egotistical, toxic males who think they are badasses. The vast majority are idiots and out of touch with reality and society in general. That's goes from little league all the way to the pros. Not all but the vast majority. They live in a bubble. Especially Gruden. I don't feel sorry for any of them because they think they can say and do whatever, and whoever, they please
Posted by TruBrew
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2019
2261 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:14 pm to
Maybe it's pretty simple and clear cut, therefore leaving nothing to tell.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24447 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Outside of throwing others under the bus, he has nothing to say


Make everything public. Everything. Let's see what everyone has to say about everything they said in private in the history of recorded emails in the NFL. Maybe he was the only one who ever said something fricked up in an email. But maybe not.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288117 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Should I list all the players who committed felonies and were later allowed to play in the NFL? What crime did Gruden commit again?


Who said he committed crimes lol?

But hey, excellent attempt at trying to defend a racist
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31734 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

He’s said legitimately racist & sexist & homophobic things and did not deserve to be in the league


I’ll grant sexist but what did he say that was racist or homophobic?

He called a dude with large lips, “rubber lips” and said Goodell was trying to convince teams to pick up an undersized homosexual player solely because of his sexuality. You can agree or disagree (I disagree) that any of that is appropriate, but the rantings of a maniacal racist homophobe isn’t there.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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38088 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:29 pm to
If trial goes forward
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