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Alphonso Davies out due to myocarditis
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:17 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:17 am
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Nothing to see here…get the jab!
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Alphonso Davies sidelined for Bayern Munich with COVID-19 complications, could miss Canada-USMNT match
Nothing to see here…get the jab!
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:22 am to Robin Masters
Did you even read the article?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:26 am to Keys Open Doors
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Did you even read the article?
Of course. Oh wait, you think getting Covid and complications despite being jabbed is a “win”?
Lol
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:36 am to Robin Masters
A) the vaccine is poison
B) the vaccine is completely ineffective
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am to Robin Masters
Where’s my arsenal fam crazy at?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:56 am to Keys Open Doors
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A) the vaccine is poison
B) the vaccine is completely ineffective
a. the vaccine affects hearts
b. the virus affects hearts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree with this. What im wondering is, if you get the jab then later get covid, did you double whammy your heart?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
Right but if one neighborhood averages 8 break-ins a year and the other averages 1 break-in a year, would you say the neighborhoods are equally dangerous?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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a. the vaccine affects hearts
b. the virus affects hearts more severely
c. Get the jab, or don’t. Make your choice and stfu about it
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:13 am to cwil177
Fwiw, myocarditis is a 3-6 month layoff (or at least that’s what I had to learn for my sports med boards)
I wonder what symptoms he had or if Bayern empirically checks for this sort of stuff. Asymptomatic carriers of COVID don’t really get myocarditis.
I also think the myocarditis thing in young healthy people is probably overblown. Tons of viruses, including flu, can cause myocarditis without it being super symptomatic. I think we are seeing more of it than really matters because so many more athletes are getting these extra tests that most people with a virus would never get under normal circumstances.
I wonder what symptoms he had or if Bayern empirically checks for this sort of stuff. Asymptomatic carriers of COVID don’t really get myocarditis.
I also think the myocarditis thing in young healthy people is probably overblown. Tons of viruses, including flu, can cause myocarditis without it being super symptomatic. I think we are seeing more of it than really matters because so many more athletes are getting these extra tests that most people with a virus would never get under normal circumstances.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:24 am to cwil177
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I think we are seeing more of it than really matters because so many more athletes are getting these extra tests that most people with a virus would never get under normal circumstances.
So sort of like everyone going into a hospital taking a pcr test when it was never done before then falsely claiming everyone in hospital is a covid patient?
And btw, we didn’t just start giving athletes physicals in 2022.
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“There are key elements that most medicals will feature. A health check to look for any cardio concerns is one of these; since Fabrice Muamba's heart attack, clubs are even more diligent about checking any heart irregularities. Players up to the age of 24 will ideally have annual checks to detect any heart-related issues.
Players gets their heart checked regularly, this isnt something new.
Such new testing tech....
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:05 am to dgnx6
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Players gets their heart checked regularly, this isnt something new.
Such new testing tech....
Oh look it’s an EKG. You’re so smart. Such sass
EKG’s don’t diagnose myocarditis. Chest pain, tachycardia, an elevated troponin, and a cardiac MRI do. An echo is used to look for wall motion abnormalities in confirmed/suspected cases.
Cardiac MRI was never common in sports after getting a virus. Now you have some groups suggesting we should be doing this to clear athletes after they get COVID.
You don’t know more than me on this topic but nice try.
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And btw, we didn’t just start giving athletes physicals in 2022.
I’m aware. I’ve been doing them since 2014.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:18 am to Keys Open Doors
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Right but if one neighborhood averages 8 break-ins a year and the other averages 1 break-in a year, would you say the neighborhoods are equally dangerous?
I was more saying the anti-vax stuff about heart issues is silly, especially considering the only reason why CV is dangerous on a macro level is that it's infectious. We're all going to get covid at some point.
The anti-vax people are obsessed with a doomsday scenario that will crush their quality of life and have their children growing up in the Medieval time period.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:20 am to cwil177
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I wonder what symptoms he had or if Bayern empirically checks for this sort of stuff. Asymptomatic carriers of COVID don’t really get myocarditis.
I also think the myocarditis thing in young healthy people is probably overblown. Tons of viruses, including flu, can cause myocarditis without it being super symptomatic. I think we are seeing more of it than really matters because so many more athletes are getting these extra tests that most people with a virus would never get under normal circumstances.
I said weeks ago on the poli board that people who get the vax (or have had covid) should just be warned to reduce strenuous activity for a time period (say 90 days) and be mindful of any effects on their heart.
The issue is that the vaccines have reached such a holy status that any information about their issues has to be ignored/scrubbed.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
Overall I think a lot of these mild cases are incidental and aren’t found in 99.9% of the population. I would bet that a lot of people complaining of fatigue and tachycardia for months/weeks after infection have a mild myocarditis.
Not to dive back into the vax debate, but the likelihood of getting myocarditis from COVID itself is about 6x the risk of getting it from the vaccine. LINK
Not to dive back into the vax debate, but the likelihood of getting myocarditis from COVID itself is about 6x the risk of getting it from the vaccine. LINK
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:24 pm to cwil177
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The five unvaccinated players are: Eric Maxim Chopuo-Moting, Michael Cuisance, Serge Gnabry, Joshua Kimmich, and Jamal Musiala.
Davies is vaccinated. I bet none of those five players get myocarditis.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:24 pm to cwil177
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the vaccine affects hearts
b. the virus affects hearts more severely
c. Get the jab, or don’t. Make your choice and stfu about it
So you’ve been advising patients from the start that the vaccine could cause heart problems for them?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The anti-vax people are obsessed with a doomsday scenario that will crush their quality of life and have their children growing up in the Medieval time period.
Or we just don’t want to jeopardize ourselves or our children unnecessarily.
Tomato tomahto
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:13 pm to Earnest_P
Oh, yay. Another one of these threads.
I wish we had a half-arse decent mod that would axe these, they’ve become way to frequent on this board.
I wish we had a half-arse decent mod that would axe these, they’ve become way to frequent on this board.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:41 pm to DByrd2
Aubamayang out with ‘heart issue’ in AFCON. No clue if he is vaccinated but he did have the virus.
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