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On this day 157 years ago, William T. Sherman presented Savannah, GA to Lincoln...

Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:27 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68303 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:27 am
As a Christmas present, thus ending his infamous March to the Sea.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39728 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:33 am to
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
64 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:34 am to
quote:

William T. Sherman


Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26051 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:40 am to
Sherman putting the rebel scum in their place.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5467 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:46 am to
Ironically, Sherman was the first president of LSU (known as Louisiana State Seminary of Learning and Military Academy at the time).
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:47 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39728 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:54 am to
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rebel scum

Statements like these show you have absolutely zero comprehension of history or social sciences. In the 1860's, your average Southerner would have been hundreds of miles away from the nearest federal building or installation. The United States as a centralized entity didn't exist in the minds of 99% of the population. You were a Virginian, a South Carolinian, a Georgian. So when a federal army made up of soldiers from places you've never heard of or been to descends on your homeland, is your average Southerner supposed to fight with the foreign hordes or defend his own people?
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17412 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:56 am to
I maintain that Sherman spared savannah bc he was a mason.
Posted by SemiNoblePursuit
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1959 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:01 am to
This board is rife with Confederate sympathizers. Don’t be shocked if your upvote/downvote ratio is arse

Edit: y’all lost the war and I’m happy you did
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 7:19 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103947 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Confederate sympathizers
I sympathize for both the confederate and Yankees

No war highlights the greedy fat politician pigs sending young men to slaughter more than the civil war

The soldiers on both sides had zero dog in the fight, they were fighting a rich elite mans war
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39728 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:06 am to
quote:

This board is rife with Confederate sympathizers. Don’t be shocked if your upvote/downvote ratio is arse

One can simultaneously recognize the evils of slavery and also realize that the Union victory was the primary factor in the death of the American republic and the reason why our current federal government is a centralized leviathan which seeks to control and regulate every facet of our lives.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:08 am to
frick him and everyone who praises that piece of shite
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32814 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:13 am to
Sherman started what Joe Burrow continued in Georgia.Burn them all....especially Georgia's defense!!!

All joking aside, once Grant unleashed Sherman into Georgia and when the Confederacy saw how effective Sherman was and how relatively easily he does his invasion/ hell raising tour it should have been the ultimate signal to Lee and Davis that all was lost. But if you want sheer brutality and destruction, it is Sherman & Co. after Savannah in South Carolina. The Union Army was going to make that state pay for being the place where the war started.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25593 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:14 am to
War criminal.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107673 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:15 am to
By any modern definition, a war criminal.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:15 am to
quote:

is your average Southerner supposed to fight with the foreign hordes or defend his own people?


Statements like these show you have absolutely zero comprehension of history or social sciences.

For example, Wheat's battalion was made up of men who, "were actuated more by a spirit of adventure and love of plunder than by love of country." And was composed of men of many nationalities, many of whom didn't speak English and couldn't understand their officers.

But also, as far as, "defend his own people", my GG-grandfather was a Captain in the 9th Louisiana Cavalry fighting along the Teche and Red River. He lost. He went home. All of his land was still there for him to farm, and all of his people were still there to farm it - except for his slaves.

So, what was he fighting for?

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
33985 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:15 am to
Sherman did not die a slow agonizing death caused by arse cancer, but he damn well should have.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
12381 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:16 am to
Nm
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 7:20 am
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26051 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Statements like these show you have absolutely zero comprehension of history or social sciences. In the 1860's, your average Southerner would have been hundreds of miles away from the nearest federal building or installation. The United States as a centralized entity didn't exist in the minds of 99% of the population. You were a Virginian, a South Carolinian, a Georgian. So when a federal army made up of soldiers from places you've never heard of or been to descends on your homeland, is your average Southerner supposed to fight with the foreign hordes or defend his own people?




Bless your heart. You're believer of the "war of northern aggression" mindset aren't you?

People in the South love to throw up the states rights arguments and how evil the North was, but that could not be further from the truth. After the Compromise of 1850, one could argue the South was doing exactly what they claimed the North was doing by "infringing on our rights". Fugitive Slave Laws allowed Southern slave catchers to enter Northern states and seize AA (whether they were escaped or not) and bring them back South. Imagine if the North had done this? Yall on this board would flip your shite if that happened today.

The Southern belief in Nullification was another issue. "Oh we don't like that law so we just wont follow it, STATE LAW RULZ"

The South had no issue with the Federal govt. as long as they did exactly what they wanted. When they lost the fight on Popular Sovereignty and it was clear they would lose the Senate they took their ball and went home.

One thing that always gets overlooked here is 1. South fired first 2. Lincoln and the republicans did not want to end slavery, only stop its spread. They went out of their way to make this clear to the South. Southern planter class and Southern propaganda swayed everyone else to thinking a war was a good idea.

To summarize, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68303 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:27 am to
quote:

By any modern definition, a war criminal.



If you have a problem with what Sherman did to the Deep South while, at the same time, make apologies for what Curtis LeMay and Carl Spaatz did to Axis cities in the Second World War, then you are a hypocrite. And a big one at that. Because what U.S. bombers did to the Germans and the Japanese is far worse than what Sherman did to Confederate cities.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26051 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:29 am to
quote:

If you have a problem with what Sherman did to the Deep South while, at the same time, make apologies for what Curtis LeMay and Carl Spaatz did to Axis cities in the Second World War, then you are a hypocrite. And a big one at that. Because what U.S. bombers did to the Germans and the Japanese is far worse than what Sherman did to Confederate cities.



it's pointless to try to bring logic into these civil war threads.
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