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Transgender people can’t be baptized unless they’ve ‘repented,’ Catholic diocese says

Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:00 pm



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A Catholic diocese in Michigan has instructed its pastors to deny baptism, confirmation and other sacraments to transgender and nonbinary people unless they have “repented” — possibly the first diocese in the United States to issue such a sweeping policy about those who identify with a gender other than their sex assigned at birth.

The guidance issued by the Diocese of Marquette also stipulates that transgender people may not receive Communion, in which Catholics believe the body and blood of Jesus Christ are truly present. In most circumstances, they cannot receive the anointing of the sick, which is meant to provide physical or spiritual healing to those who are seriously ill. The guidance was issued in July but only recently sparked a debate after a prominent priest and advocate for LGBTQ Catholics shared it on Twitter.

“The experience of incongruence in one’s sexual identity is not sinful if it does not arise from the person’s free will, nor would it stand in the way of Christian Initiation,” reads the document. “However, deliberate, freely chosen and manifest behaviors to redefine one’s sex do constitute such an obstacle.”

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Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82776 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:02 pm to
All 0 trannie Catholics and their thousands of allies on Twitter will be outraged
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33637 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:05 pm to
Good, pendulum needs to start in the opposite direction
Posted by Nightflier1
Member since Nov 2021
50 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:06 pm to
The Catholic Church should fix their pedo problem before they go saying who can and can’t be baptized.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82776 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

The Catholic Church should fix their pedo problem before they go saying who can and can’t be baptized.


No, the church should do both
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20481 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
Then they can go over to the Episcopal Church and get baptized. (And given how the membership is declining there, they can use all the help they can get.)

Most Protestant churches -- specifically, those in the fundamentalist and evangelical camps, along with a large number of the Pentecostal/charismatic ones -- won't baptize them either.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22797 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:10 pm to
Hopefully the Catholic church makes the same determination regarding those who support abortion.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33771 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:15 pm to
I can't wait for all the athiest trannies to be outraged at the opinions of a religion they don't believe in.

Posted by Nightflier1
Member since Nov 2021
50 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:15 pm to
Lmao fair enough
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23049 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:19 pm to
This entire “transgender” debate is a dividing line for both our culture and nation. Are we going to align with hysteria and barbaric witch-doctory or with reason and science?

Progressivism is a cult of ritualistic death and destruction — indeed many of the core tenets of progressivism are increasingly rooted in child sacrifice. There really is no other way to describe it.


Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63844 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

The Catholic Church should fix their pedo problem before they go saying who can and can’t be baptized.




So should the public school system which takes billions in taxpayers dollars.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
3217 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:25 pm to
I don’t think it really matters. There is no way someone that believes in changing their assigned birth believes in God anyway.
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2699 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:25 pm to
Don’t know for sure it’s a sin, but personally believe it’s a mental illness and contributes nothing positive to families and society
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
31008 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:26 pm to
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(And given how the membership is declining there, they can use all the help they can get.)


This is what happens to churches when they stray from their traditional spirituality and give in to the secular passions of their human leaders and congregants.
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18901 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:36 pm to
Repent for what? They're mentally ill. Do we expect schizophrenics to repent?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82776 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I don’t think it really matters. There is no way someone that believes in changing their assigned birth believes in God anyway.


Right. That’s why I said this impacts 0 actual Catholics but Twitter “allies” will predictably go bonkers
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29417 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 1:59 pm to
Pope Francis can't wait to weigh in on this, I'm sure
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9374 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 2:18 pm to
Not a LGBTQRSTUV guy but the Catholic Church really should periodically pipe down on public ethical/moral commentary. Maybe get their own house in order first.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87176 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

This entire “transgender” debate is a dividing line for both our culture and nation.


And for what? Less than 1% of the population?

Again…inmates running the asylum.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111903 posts
Posted on 12/12/21 at 2:26 pm to
As it should be.
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