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Hypothetical From the Detroit Challenge Fiasco
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:45 pm
If a player catches a TD and it looks like it might get overturned, can the coach throw the challenge flag, take the 15 yard penalty, and keep the booth from reviewing? I don't know what he would be wanting to review but does that matter? Seems like a hole in an already stupid rule if it's possible.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:47 pm to gatorhata9
Like the coach of the team that scored?
No the rules there so you can't gain an advantage by throwing an illegal challenge.
Dumb rule though
No the rules there so you can't gain an advantage by throwing an illegal challenge.
Dumb rule though
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:48 pm to gatorhata9
I would imagine there's a stipulation to keep things like that in check.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:48 pm to gatorhata9
eta: maybe I'm confused by what happened. Someone break it down
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:50 pm to Elleshoe
No I think making the play non-reviewable because a coach prematurely throws a challenge flag is a stupid rule.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:58 pm to gatorhata9
I think you guy's are out thinking this too much.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
Oh I absolutely am but that's how my mind works
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:19 pm to gatorhata9
So what's the NFLs explanation if the trindon holiday fiasco from a couple wks ago?
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:36 pm to Elleshoe
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eta: maybe I'm confused by what happened. Someone break it down
1) Houston runner was tackled, then got up and ran to end zone. Ruling on the field was TD.
2) All scoring plays are automatically reviewed. The Lion coach did not know this and threw the challenge flag.
3) By rule, this is an unsportsmanlike penalty - 15 yard penalty and loss of the right for the play to be reviewed.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:44 pm to Master of Sinanju
Not really sure how the NFL would define it as unsportsmanlike.
Terrible rule. Just pick up the flag and say its already being reviewed and you don't need to throw a red flag. Or if you must punish them then just take their challenge. No reason to not review it.
Terrible rule. Just pick up the flag and say its already being reviewed and you don't need to throw a red flag. Or if you must punish them then just take their challenge. No reason to not review it.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:49 pm to The Eric
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Terrible rule.
I agree. It's incredibly harsh. At worst, it should be a delay of game penalty, and charge them with the challenge.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:25 pm to Master of Sinanju
I think the original post is a good one. By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged? Technically wouldn't that be the case?
And what advantage did Detroit gain by throwing a flag?
And what advantage did Detroit gain by throwing a flag?
Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:34 pm to lsumatt
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By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged? Technically wouldn't that be the case?
Because the rule doesn't stop a review from happening. It prevents the team from throwing a challenge flag illegally from benefitting from a challenge.
In this case the Lions couldn't benefit so no review was done. If the Texans had challenged they would be flagged and it could have been reviewed and would have been overturned.
This post was edited on 11/22/12 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 11/22/12 at 8:36 pm to lsumatt
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By the letter of this stupid rule, why couldn't the scoring team throw a challenge flag to avoid the play being challenged?
Why would you challenge a play you scored on? Would take a lot of fore thought to say, next time we score and it looks like they could over turn the play, I'll throw the flag real fast before the booth has time to review. Sounds pretty far fetched. It was a fluke play, maybe they will change the rule in the off season. That's about it.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
I want a coach to throw a challenge flag in a worthless late game TD this weekend when their own team scores to just exacerbate this dumbass rule.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:44 pm to KosmoCramer
On a side note, if (1) you know the opposing team is out of timeouts and (2) you know that all scoring plays are reviewed and (3) you know in your heart that your knee touched the ground, then you go out of bounds on the 1 and you get away with everything.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 12:29 am to H-Town Tiger
I'll tell you why you throw the challenge flag on a play you scored on in this crazy hypothetiical. What if you think the timekeeper ran time off the clock after the score?
Posted on 11/23/12 at 2:28 am to H-Town Tiger
was not a "fluke" play...it happened last week, fricking over the Falcons
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