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Officially, the Case is Closed. Voting is fair in America.

Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:40 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:40 pm
Lawyers, who were election deniers are now turning states evidence trying to stay out of jail.

It is very disreputable to question elections. Very unfashionable. Very unhinged. Very unpatriotic. Potentially treasonous.

And yet, even now, there seems to be an ongoing stream of reports concerning electoral irregularities. These can be categorized as follows:

Mail-in Ballot Concerns: Issues raised include lack of signature verification, unexplained voting patterns (e.g., disproportionate votes for one candidate), use of photocopies or marks that appear unnatural (like perfectly oval shapes), and absence of expected folds in mail-in ballots.

Voting Machine Irregularities: Allegations of vote flipping.

Anomalies in Voting Patterns: Reports of unnatural spikes in vote counts.

Ineligible Voting: Instances of votes reportedly cast by ineligible populations, such as deceased individuals or ex-felons.

Discrepancies in Vote Totals: Claims of more votes being counted than there are registered voters.

Conspiracy Theories: Ranging from direct manipulation of voting machines (e.g., using thumb drives) to elaborate international plots involving special forces and satellites.

Controversy Over Ballot Collection: Issues like those raised in the "2000 Mules" claim.

Miscellaneous Reports: Including allegations of trucks transporting large quantities of completed ballots.

This is not an exhaustive list, but rather a documentation of the types of allegations made.

The prevailing official stance seems to discount these allegations as non-credible. Additionally, there's the perspective that all legal challenges to these claims have been unsuccessful. In this context, doubting the legitimacy of the election is often viewed as unfounded.

Given this, the path to conducting a thorough investigation likely requires involvement from a federal law enforcement entity, which has not happened.

As a concerned citizen looking to move beyond these conspiracy theories and restore faith in our democratic system, I’m grappling with skepticism. Is this skepticism misplaced, considering the political rather than analytical responses to these allegations? How can I, as a responsible American, regain confidence in our electoral system?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22707 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:45 pm to
Was the case closed when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6550 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:48 pm to
I don’t understand the one downvote so far.

You can never expect elections to be fair any longer. Elections haven’t been relatively free of fraud since Reagan second landslide. To think we went from center right to Clinton and Obama is ludicrous. Likewise Biden.

Add in fetterman, hobbs, and all the other Demorats that were selected in close elections in 2020 and 2022.

And my party DGAS.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:48 pm to
What I want to know is what went wrong with our system?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64571 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:50 pm to
How did the corruption get so widespread?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:53 pm to
Why would all the institutions in this country with the capacity to process all this look the other way?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

What I want to know is what went wrong with our system?


Boomers got power.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10967 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:55 pm to
Come on, it isn’t that hard. For many years you voted by showing up and casting a ballot. There were paper ballots. Were there some examples of fraud under that system? Yes, but they were around the edges or in cities completely controlled by a political boss (e.g. Chicago). Now look at 2020 and how that vote was conducted. Can you spot the differences?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76968 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Voting is fair in America.


Without transparent and credible election systems there is no way to know this.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29237 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

How can I, as a responsible American, regain confidence in our electoral system?


Whether or not someone views the election as safe and secure, it is pure gaslighting by the Left to not acknowledge this question as legitimate. Especially since there are plenty of receipts of them denying prior elections.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:01 pm to
Can't fix a broken system through itself. Have to fix it with a different system.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Come on, it isn’t that hard. For many years you voted by showing up and casting a ballot. There were paper ballots. Were there some examples of fraud under that system? Yes, but they were around the edges or in cities completely controlled by a political boss (e.g. Chicago). Now look at 2020 and how that vote was conducted. Can you spot the differences?


This explains how the opportunities for cheating were expanded. But what caused the lack of any ability to formally investigate the irregularities?
This post was edited on 11/19/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36234 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:11 pm to
Become ungovernable.
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4008 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:11 pm to
what kind of moron would down vote this, I'll tell you who would do it. a democrat who knows deep down inside that the democrats stole the election but he just can't admit it to himself.a coward!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76968 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

Can't fix a broken system through itself. Have to fix it with a different system.


True.

You couldn't do it from inside the broken system.

You would need to come at it from completely outside that system.
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
3510 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Was the case closed when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!


Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

True.

You couldn't do it from inside the broken system.

You would need to come at it from completely outside that system.


In reality, we need a generational pause from democracy (our system) and we need to clean up the messes.

Say 20 years... with absolute authority doing a deep clean, and reforming a republic that will work in line with the intentions of the founders.

I know that sounds dangerous and all, but how does a corrupted system fix itself.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
8926 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

How did the corruption get so widespread?

quote:

Biden: We Have Put Together The Most Extensive And Inclusive Voter Fraud Organization In The History Of American Politics
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8994 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:26 pm to
Things people cheat on every day:

Sports
Academics
Spouses
Taxes
Bar trivia
Horse races
Bass fishing tourneys


The most fair and secure thing ever?

Elections.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 11/19/23 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

The most fair and secure thing ever? Elections.


Which is exactly the thing you’d expect someone who cheated to say. In fact, the ONLY person you’d expect to say this is someone who cheated or whom is ok with cheating.
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