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John Deere agreed to allow farmers to fix
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:09 pm
...their own tractors
Why is this even a debate?
"Farmers in the US will now be able to fix their own John Deere equipment or head to independent repair shops without intervention from the agricultural equipment manufacturer.
Addressing a long-standing complaint from farmers, American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) and John Deere signed a memorandum of understanding on Sunday that ensures farmers and ranchers have the freedom to repair their own farm equipment."
LINK to qz.com
Why is this even a debate?
"Farmers in the US will now be able to fix their own John Deere equipment or head to independent repair shops without intervention from the agricultural equipment manufacturer.
Addressing a long-standing complaint from farmers, American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF) and John Deere signed a memorandum of understanding on Sunday that ensures farmers and ranchers have the freedom to repair their own farm equipment."
LINK to qz.com
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:11 pm to TNoon
Because John deere is asshoe
I'll never buy yellow and green again because of their bullshite.
I'll never buy yellow and green again because of their bullshite.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
truth
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:12 pm to TNoon
Was this why Vince Vaughns character got arrested in Into The Wild?
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:13 pm to TNoon
Must be losing money.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:16 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:16 pm to TNoon
quote:
Why is this even a debate?
Because despite being one of the companies who built America, Deere is the epitome of corporate greed. They are also woke as frick. Maybe there is a correlation....
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:18 pm to TNoon
They can agree or not, farmers have sent their need kids to school to learn to hack John Deeres system and reprogram machinery.. JD just knows they are fricked since they tried to sue the farmers and lost..
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:20 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Must be losing money.
They have to be. This software, IP issue was a big deal. Not really for joe blow planting food plots but for guys getting ready to drop half a mill on a combine.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:20 pm to rsbd
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tried to sue the farmers and lost
Gimme a link for some morning reading material
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:22 pm to TNoon
I've been hoping for years that farmers just abandon them.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:26 pm to TNoon
I'm a diesel mechanic and I can tell you that ALL OEM software is being hacked and distributed for a a fraction of the price. All out in the open too. The manufactures make you pay thousands of dollars per year for software that doesn't even do all the things the dealers can. So they all just getting hacked.
Edit - The farm and equipment side of things comes with some setbacks when trying to hack them. You still cannot access the ECM without the OEM specific connector (which you guessed cost at least $1000). So if you have a John Deere tractor and a Case harvester you gotta buy 2 seperate connectors even with the hacked software. Semi trucks you can all connect to using the same connector no matter the truck.
Edit - The farm and equipment side of things comes with some setbacks when trying to hack them. You still cannot access the ECM without the OEM specific connector (which you guessed cost at least $1000). So if you have a John Deere tractor and a Case harvester you gotta buy 2 seperate connectors even with the hacked software. Semi trucks you can all connect to using the same connector no matter the truck.
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:31 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Was this why Vince Vaughns character got arrested in Into The Wild?
Dude was selling illegal satellite tv chips or cards. Almost as bad as when Mickey on peewees big adventure was ripping the tags off mattresses.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:48 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
JD loses
This post was edited on 1/18/23 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:50 pm to lsunatchamp
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So if you have a John Deere tractor and a Case harvester you gotta buy 2 seperate connectors even with the hacked software. Semi trucks you can all connect to using the same connector no matter the truck.
I'm not one for government ever getting involved in matters but one thing they didn't completely frick up was the somewhat standard of OBD2
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I have a 2003 JD 4610 that I bought brand new and it's still going strong.
But 2 years ago, I needed a bigger one for big hay bales and I bought a Kubota because of that crap.
But 2 years ago, I needed a bigger one for big hay bales and I bought a Kubota because of that crap.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:07 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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I'm not one for government ever getting involved in matters but one thing they didn't completely frick up was the somewhat standard of OBD2
Unfortunately the only way we’d get a standardized off-road connector is if they started emissions testing them and that was their excuse to go all nanny state.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:09 pm to TNoon
because lobbyists
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:09 pm to TNoon
My Pops refused to buy anything JD. International Harvester , Ford or Oliver. F JD.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:46 pm to billjamin
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Unfortunately the only way we’d get a standardized off-road connector is if they started emissions testing them and that was their excuse to go all nanny state.
Excuse my ignorance because I'm an on highway diesel tech, but I've seen JD tractors with DPF? Are you sure that's the case?
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