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Where to start with Star Trek?

Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:51 am
No, I haven't been living in a box.

I've seen some episodes of the original show years ago, but that was a long time ago and I didn't see enough to actually remember anything. So I'm essentially a newcomer. What would be a good place to start watching Star Trek for a fan of Sci-Fi?

I'm not opposed to movies or series. My wife will be more likely to watch with me if its something newer, but that is just a bonus and not necessarily a needle-mover for me.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7147 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:54 am to
I would start with the original show.
Posted by slough
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2020
320 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:56 am to
I've only recently been watching some Star Trek after catching only a few random episodes of various series over the years.

I'd recommend starting with Strange New Worlds. It's a brand new prequel to the original show and it's fun and short.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:09 pm to
Always start at the beginning. That’s my rule of thumb.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68411 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:26 pm to
If you’ve never watched Trek and are unsure if you’d like it or not, I recommend The Orville. It’s simply fantastic, a love letter to classic trek with enough humor to even out the serious science fiction. It does a great job of presenting a lot of current issues through a nuanced lens that never feels out of place, overtly partisan, or overly preachy. It’s what Trek should be.

However, if you have seen some Trek, watch the original series.

For me, I love The Orville, then TNG, then the original series, but they’re all fantastic.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92520 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:42 pm to
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I would start with the original show.




frick it - he could start and end there and be just fine.

However, TNG is fine television as well. DS9 is underrated. Voyager is fine. Enterprise is fine.

As far as the films - TMP through TVH are must see. Skip Final Frontier and watch The Undiscovered Country. Skip Generations and watch First Contact.

Then pretend Star Trek ended after First Contact. Live happily ever after. (ETA: "Live long and prosper.")
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 7:17 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
8942 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

I would start with the original show.



This is the way.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37182 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

If you’ve never watched Trek and are unsure if you’d like it or not, I recommend The Orville. It’s simply fantastic, a love letter to classic trek with enough humor to even out the serious science fiction. It does a great job of presenting a lot of current issues through a nuanced lens that never feels out of place, overtly partisan, or overly preachy. It’s what Trek should be.



I've read a lot of hyperbolic horse shite about The Orville being better than most Star Trek, but this right here just takes the Romulan cake.

The Orville is a better introduction to Star Trek than ST: The Original Series? What's next? Don't bother with The Beatles until you've heard The Monkees?

Posted by Julz5198
Member since Mar 2023
564 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:52 pm to
Watch all the originals (Trouble with Tribbles is my favorite). Then the movies. Any of the tv versions are junk if you are a true Trekkie
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68411 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:06 pm to
For people used to modern movies and tv series, going back and watching something with 1960’s production value can be jarring and distracting. However, if they’re already invested in the medium and story, they won’t be bothered by the cheap sets or corny costumes, and will instead find it charming. However, if they are not so invested, the dated nature of the old show’s production might be too much to overcome for a newcomer to get invested into the stories and characters.

If someone has never heard the Beatles, especially if they’ve never listened to music from the previous millennium, I might not recommend they jump straight into The Ed Sullivan Show performance of “I Want to Hold Your Hand”. The difference between modern quantized and melodined music and early Beatles recordings can be absolutely jarring to the an ear that hasn’t been accustomed to hearing non-quantized music. I might instead recommend the movie “Across the Universe” as a way to gauge their interest before sending them all the way down the rabbit hole.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13080 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I recommend The Orville


The Orville bounces between both classic themes of Sci-fi, gay and racist.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92520 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:17 pm to
KB - your post is rational and reasonable, but it ignores one thing:

Good shite is good shite.

Star Trek (no bloody "A", "B", "C" or "D") is some of the best shite there is.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92520 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I've read a lot of hyperbolic horse shite about The Orville being better than most Star Trek, but this right here just takes the Romulan cake.


I have not seen it and I know it isn't better than TOS, TNG and DS9.

(It probably isn't significantly better than Voyager or Enterprise - )

Now, also, having not seen it I can conclude that it IS likely better than any official product beginning with Insurrection.

#Fightme
Posted by slough
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2020
320 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:23 pm to
Orville is better than Discovery, at least, which is a shame because Discovery could have been good if not for the writing. The set designs and some of the ideas are good.

I started with season 2 of Discovery because I liked Strange New Worlds and it was okay. I then tried season 1, which was kind of dire, and I couldn't make it very far into season 3.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68411 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Good shite is good shite.


I agree. The issue is making sure that people actually give that good shite a chance to show them that it is good.

Imagine an affordable restaurant that makes incredible food, but doesn’t advertise, is located in a difficult to access stripmall, has no online presence, and once inside is very bare, no frills, and serves food in Styrofoam to-go containers. Everyone who eats there LOVES the food. However, in order for someone to eat there, they have to know it exists, be convinced to make the trip, and decide that it meets their requirements. A lot of people will be deterred by the atmosphere or the location, or they just will never know it exists. Those who are willing to adventure to little hole-in-the-walls will find it will cherish it, but the less informed, diligent, and/or adventurous diner will not.

How can they get their food out to the wider market? Maybe the restaurant owner’s son starts a food truck. It’s not exactly the same, but it’s a really good snapshot of the kinds of things the restaurant does. He brings the truck out to bars at night and to many events around town, telling people that if they like the truck, they should visit his family’s restaurant.

Before I bring someone way out to the little restaurant, I might introduce them first to the truck to see if they like it. If they already know the food is worth the journey, then they’ll happily take on the trip to eat at the full restaurant.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34113 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:43 pm to
I would start at select episodes of The Original Series (which will be identified at a later time, this List is overbroad but has summaries so you can decide),
and then the movies, The Motion Picture (1979)
II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
III: The Search for Spock (1984),
Then the reboot movies,
Star Trek (2009)
Into Darkness (2013).

From there you will receive further instructions.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68411 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:45 pm to
No TNG or Generations? TNG is seriously great tv.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34113 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:49 pm to
Do not interfere.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53227 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I would start with the original show.



I wouldn't at all.

And ignore the guy suggesting The Orville, that is just dumb
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 1:53 pm
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