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History rabbit hole: Napoleon re-acquired Louisiana in 1800 in exchange for…

Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by S
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:37 pm
…Tuscany?

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The Kingdom of France had controlled the Louisiana territory from 1682[4] until it was ceded to Spain in 1762. In 1800, Napoleon, the First Consul of the French Republic, regained ownership of Louisiana in exchange for Tuscany as part of a broader effort to re-establish a French colonial empire in North America





Watching dances with wolves, started reading about the American frontier, ended up in the Louisiana purchase. Don’t you just love rabbit holes?
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:39 pm to
Fair, even trade
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:39 pm to
Louisiana was a Spanish colony far longer than it was a French colony yet we insist on the nonsense of slapping eaux on the end of every word.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:43 pm to
I bet you wouldn't say that to this guy's face.


Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:46 pm to
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Don’t you just love rabbit holes?

better than assholes.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:46 pm to
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Louisiana was a Spanish colony far longer than it was a French colony
what?
1762 - 1684 = 80
1800 - 1762 = 38

French quarter is Spanish architecture
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 2:49 pm
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:46 pm to
How much better would we be able to recruit if LSU had all the feeder high schools here:

Posted by teke184
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Posted by Bottom9
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Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:00 pm to
All those cornfed iowa OL would belong to us
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:43 pm to
Bernardo de Galvez
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:57 pm to
The Spanish didn’t really have a choice in the matter. Lewis & Clark were not received warmly by Spanish soldiers in the area who felt the entire transaction was illegitimate.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:08 pm to
Hernan Cortes
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:17 pm to
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The Spanish didn’t really have a choice in the matter. Lewis & Clark were not received warmly by Spanish soldiers in the area who felt the entire transaction was illegitimate.


The British felt the purchase was illegitimate too. Jackson convinced them otherwise.

Had the Brits won at Chalmette, would they have given it back to the Spanish, or kept it for themselves?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:27 pm to
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Louisiana was a Spanish colony far longer than it was a French colony yet we insist on the nonsense of slapping eaux on the end of every word.



Because the Spanish didn't bother themselves in sending a whole lot of people here.
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Had the Brits won at Chalmette, would they have given it back to the Spanish, or kept it for themselves?


They almost certainly would have kept it. Would have cut off further westward expansion. People should think about that when they talk about taking Jackson off the Twenty. What he did in the defense of New Orleans was one of the greatest accomplishments in US military history.
Posted by 2 Jugs
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Because the Spanish didn't bother themselves in sending a whole lot of people here.



The Spanish invited most of the French that were kicked out of Acadie. That is how my French ancestors came to the Acadian Coast in the 1750/60s.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:05 pm to
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The Spanish invited most of the French that were kicked out of Acadie. That is how my French ancestors came to the Acadian Coast in the 1750/60s.




Correct. I should have better clarified in saying THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:11 pm to
Spain was done in the western hemisphere. The loss of the Louisiana Territory was just an early domino in the process.
Posted by Delacroix22
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:56 pm to
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French quarter is Spanish architecture


This is true

The round balconies you see on buildings are Spanish

There was a large fire in the French quarter that burned most of the city and the French architecture.

There is one remnant down on Gov Nicholls of how the quarter looked before the fire and then the Spanish rebuild.

Farm like house backed far in from the street with several smaller buildings. Think small french house on a neat parcel of land.

The buildings sandwiched close to the sidewalk are Spanish and not really original “French” architecture but more so Spanish.
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