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You can want Les gone without pretending his whole tenure has been miserable
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:35 pm
If lsu loses out and goes 7-4...I dont think many would protest moving on. If he makes it to next year with whats coming back he would have to a make a run at a title to stay around....and im fine with firing les for not producing.
But can we stop with the act of you being miserable ever since hes been coach. So many "never will win with him here" "rinse repeat" etc.
We come up with silly judgements like "he out talents other teams is only reason he wins" well recruiting is part of coaching...he gets the talent so why not use it to win? God forbid a coach uses a advantage like lsu has with no instate rival to actually recruit. Also we widely over estimate lsu talents compared to other teams. If we have the #7 class vs a.# 15 class thats not the massive advantage we act it is...and thats the ranking assuming there are no bust.
Les is 1 of 6 coaches in the country with a winning record vs top 25 teams...but we pretend we lose every big game
And even though some swear they hated the hire from day 1 (even claiming the turn around job at okie state was meh....more credit we love to take away)
I cant imagine i 11 years ago if this deal was made any of us would turn it down
2 sec titles (3rd appearance)
1 NC (have another appearance in one of best regular seasons ever in college football)
Sugar bowl win
7th all time sec winning percntage (not bad for toughest stretch in conference history for a guy who lucked into every win)
Look, if we fall flat and go 7-4 i think even the biggest pumper would be ok with moving on. Every year the rant praises some new coach for a hot year they are having as someone we should hire and more often than not that coach fades away after not being able to sustain it.
This will be the first recruiting cycle since les has been here that the cycle hasnt played for a national championship and it blows and he may have lost the fire..but if les can win these last 2...that's 9-2 with a big bowl and a whole lot of momentum for the year many have been circling as the year for a run.if he doesnt make it past this year we could atleast look back at this year being 7-0 before people started pretending its been miserable 11 year ride.
But can we stop with the act of you being miserable ever since hes been coach. So many "never will win with him here" "rinse repeat" etc.
We come up with silly judgements like "he out talents other teams is only reason he wins" well recruiting is part of coaching...he gets the talent so why not use it to win? God forbid a coach uses a advantage like lsu has with no instate rival to actually recruit. Also we widely over estimate lsu talents compared to other teams. If we have the #7 class vs a.# 15 class thats not the massive advantage we act it is...and thats the ranking assuming there are no bust.
Les is 1 of 6 coaches in the country with a winning record vs top 25 teams...but we pretend we lose every big game
And even though some swear they hated the hire from day 1 (even claiming the turn around job at okie state was meh....more credit we love to take away)
I cant imagine i 11 years ago if this deal was made any of us would turn it down
2 sec titles (3rd appearance)
1 NC (have another appearance in one of best regular seasons ever in college football)
Sugar bowl win
7th all time sec winning percntage (not bad for toughest stretch in conference history for a guy who lucked into every win)
Look, if we fall flat and go 7-4 i think even the biggest pumper would be ok with moving on. Every year the rant praises some new coach for a hot year they are having as someone we should hire and more often than not that coach fades away after not being able to sustain it.
This will be the first recruiting cycle since les has been here that the cycle hasnt played for a national championship and it blows and he may have lost the fire..but if les can win these last 2...that's 9-2 with a big bowl and a whole lot of momentum for the year many have been circling as the year for a run.if he doesnt make it past this year we could atleast look back at this year being 7-0 before people started pretending its been miserable 11 year ride.
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:36 pm to fightingtiger2335
Well said 
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:38 pm to fightingtiger2335
nail on the head
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:38 pm to fightingtiger2335
This is what the frick I was trying to say on the score board earlier. Kudos to you. 
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:42 pm to fightingtiger2335
les is a great guy and has been great for LSU. he will be missed once he leaves.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:43 pm to fightingtiger2335
Nicely done. I'm frustrated with him too, but it's not as simple as firing him right now. I just wish we could have gotten someone like Lincoln Riley instead of his bestie. If we can hold on to this recruiting class and send peveto and can walking, I think we'll be fine.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:45 pm to fightingtiger2335
no one can pretend that, but also a lot of people saw this coming.
process over results. those shitty wins were eventually going to turn into losses.
frick les miles.
process over results. those shitty wins were eventually going to turn into losses.
frick les miles.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:46 pm to fightingtiger2335
thank you!
les is goat!
les is goat!
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:47 pm to fightingtiger2335
quote:
Look, if we fall flat and go 7-4 i think even the biggest pumper would be ok with moving on. Every year the rant praises some new coach for a hot year they are having as someone we should hire and more often than not that coach fades away after not being able to sustain it.
This will be the first recruiting cycle since les has been here that the cycle hasnt played for a national championship and it blows and he may have lost the fire..but if les can win these last 2...that's 9-2 with a big bowl and a whole lot of momentum for the year many have been circling as the year for a run.if he doesnt make it past this year we could atleast look back at this year being 7-0 before people started pretending its been miserable 11 year ride.
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Well said. Agree on all points
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:47 pm to fightingtiger2335
I was reading this expecting it would be heavily downvoted, I never know with this board.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:48 pm to fightingtiger2335
My biggest problem with Miles is stubbornness
And not chewing arse when it needs to happen on sideline
And not chewing arse when it needs to happen on sideline
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:49 pm to tigerbait2010
People are frustrated because he does not win the big games in the past 5 years. It's not a coincidence now it's a trend. Whatever MOJO he had early on in his career here it's over. I appreciate what he's done but he's run his course and it's time to move on.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:50 pm to fightingtiger2335
Les has given us great moments and I feel lucky to have attended school from 2009-2012 when things were so good. With that said, the SEC is getting better every year and improvement is needed for LSU to keep pace. Les isn't going to be the one to do it.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:55 pm to fightingtiger2335
Amen
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:03 pm to fightingtiger2335
quote:
Les is 1 of 6 coaches in the country with a winning record vs top 25 teams...but we pretend we lose every big game
And even though some swear they hated the hire from day 1 (even claiming the turn around job at okie state was meh....more credit we love to take away)
I cant imagine i 11 years ago if this deal was made any of us would turn it down
2 sec titles (3rd appearance)
1 NC (have another appearance in one of best regular seasons ever in college football)
Sugar bowl win
that's nice...
now do Saban's......
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:03 pm to fightingtiger2335
Totally agree with the OP
Those who are claiming I told you he was a bad hire act like the entire Miles era has been dismal, yet we were nationally respected the entire time and were in the title mix a few seasons.
Not to mention that there are zero guarantees anyone else we'd have hired would've done better.
Those who are claiming I told you he was a bad hire act like the entire Miles era has been dismal, yet we were nationally respected the entire time and were in the title mix a few seasons.
Not to mention that there are zero guarantees anyone else we'd have hired would've done better.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:10 pm to fightingtiger2335
that is why i would prefer an established guy like jimbo who is still only 50
i use to be afraid of change and be careful what you wish for.. but if we are going to stay with this trend of dropping 3-4 games a season i would rather go a different direction.. and if it doesn't work.. pull the trigger again.. until it gets better..
i use to be afraid of change and be careful what you wish for.. but if we are going to stay with this trend of dropping 3-4 games a season i would rather go a different direction.. and if it doesn't work.. pull the trigger again.. until it gets better..
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:10 pm to kbro
quote:
Totally agree with the OP
Those who are claiming I told you he was a bad hire act like the entire Miles era has been dismal, yet we were nationally respected the entire time and were in the title mix a few seasons.
The LSU offense was an issue in:
- 2008
- 2009
- 2010
- 2011 (especially down the stretch)
- 2012
- 2013 (*ETA - I included '13 in error, sorry.)
- 2014
- 2015
I don't doubt Miles' ability to motivate a team or foster a competitive environment in practices. I doubt Miles' ability to maintain discipline, and it's clear there's something wrong with the way the offense has been coached.
The best scenario? Get a young, offensive coach to be your HCIW, get a new DC and let the new OC run the offense.
If not? The time to start considering a change is coming...
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:11 pm to chRxis
quote:
that's nice...
now do Saban'
I have 0 understanding what saban has to do with this thread.if your statement is les isnt saban so youre not happy i have bad news...you wont be happy even if is fired or you become a bama fan
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:11 pm to fightingtiger2335
i mean we aren't even winning bowl games any more
even the most recent win vs iowa was 21-14.. wtf?? i mean really? we can do so much better..
almost all our games are a close struggle.. i miss the days of LSU dominating inferior opponent.s
even the most recent win vs iowa was 21-14.. wtf?? i mean really? we can do so much better..
almost all our games are a close struggle.. i miss the days of LSU dominating inferior opponent.s
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