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Heisman Winners since 2004 and their HS national ranking per 247 Sports Composite
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:09 pm
2001 was the first year in the 247 database
Matt Leinart - 58th in 2001 (#7 QB; #4 Pro QB)
Troy Smith - 123rd in 2002 (#13 QB; #8 Dual QB)
Reggie Bush - 17th in 2003 (#3 RB)
Tim Tebow - 21st in 2006 (#3 QB; #1 Dual QB)
Sam Bradford - 348th in 2006 (#19 QB; #14 Pro QB)
Cam Newton - 43rd in 2007 (#28 national on Rivals in 2007 and #58 on ESPN) (#3 JUCO in 2010 (#1 QB))
Mark Ingram - 114th in 2008 (#10 RB)
Robert Griffin III - 311th in 2008 (#18 QB; #6 Dual)
Johnny Manziel - 383rd in 2011 (#22 QB; #13 Dual)
Marcus Mariota - 512th in 2011 (#31 QB; #18 Dual)
Jameis Winston - 16th in 2012 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Derrick Henry - 12th in 2013 (#1 Athlete)
Baker Mayfield - Unranked in 2013 (#70 QB; #42 Pro)
Kyler Murray - 34th in 2015 (#3 QB; #1 Dual)
Joe Burrow - 295th in 2015 (#20 QB; #8 Dual)
Lamar Jackson - 398th in 2015 (#28 QB; #12 Dual)
DeVonta Smith - 62nd in 2017 (#9 WR)
Bryce Young - 2nd in 2020 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Caleb Williams - 7th in 2021 (#2 QB)
(Jayden Daniels was 35th in 2019 (#3 QB; #2 Dual))
Sorted by HS overall player ranking
Bryce Young - 2nd in 2020 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Cam Newton - 3rd (JUCO) in 2010 (#1 QB)
Caleb Williams - 7th in 2021 (#2 QB)
Derrick Henry - 12th in 2013 (#1 Athlete)
Jameis Winston - 16th in 2012 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Reggie Bush - 17th in 2003 (#3 RB)
Tim Tebow - 21st in 2006 (#3 QB; #1 Dual QB)
Kyler Murray - 34th in 2015 (#3 QB; #1 Dual)
(Jayden Daniels was 35th in 2019 (#3 QB; #2 Dual))
Cam Newton - 43rd in 2007
Matt Leinart - 58th in 2001 (#7 QB; #4 Pro QB)
DeVonta Smith - 62nd in 2017 (#9 WR)
Mark Ingram - 114th in 2008 (#10 RB)
Troy Smith - 123rd in 2002 (#13 QB; #8 Dual QB)
Joe Burrow - 295th in 2015 (#20 QB; #8 Dual)
Robert Griffin III - 311th in 2008 (#18 QB; #6 Dual)
Sam Bradford - 348th in 2006 (#19 QB; #14 Pro QB)
Johnny Manziel - 383rd in 2011 (#22 QB; #13 Dual)
Lamar Jackson - 398th in 2015 (#28 QB; #12 Dual)
Marcus Mariota - 512th in 2011 (#31 QB; #18 Dual)
Baker Mayfield - Unranked in 2013 (#70 QB; #42 Pro)
Matt Leinart - 58th in 2001 (#7 QB; #4 Pro QB)
Troy Smith - 123rd in 2002 (#13 QB; #8 Dual QB)
Reggie Bush - 17th in 2003 (#3 RB)
Tim Tebow - 21st in 2006 (#3 QB; #1 Dual QB)
Sam Bradford - 348th in 2006 (#19 QB; #14 Pro QB)
Cam Newton - 43rd in 2007 (#28 national on Rivals in 2007 and #58 on ESPN) (#3 JUCO in 2010 (#1 QB))
Mark Ingram - 114th in 2008 (#10 RB)
Robert Griffin III - 311th in 2008 (#18 QB; #6 Dual)
Johnny Manziel - 383rd in 2011 (#22 QB; #13 Dual)
Marcus Mariota - 512th in 2011 (#31 QB; #18 Dual)
Jameis Winston - 16th in 2012 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Derrick Henry - 12th in 2013 (#1 Athlete)
Baker Mayfield - Unranked in 2013 (#70 QB; #42 Pro)
Kyler Murray - 34th in 2015 (#3 QB; #1 Dual)
Joe Burrow - 295th in 2015 (#20 QB; #8 Dual)
Lamar Jackson - 398th in 2015 (#28 QB; #12 Dual)
DeVonta Smith - 62nd in 2017 (#9 WR)
Bryce Young - 2nd in 2020 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Caleb Williams - 7th in 2021 (#2 QB)
(Jayden Daniels was 35th in 2019 (#3 QB; #2 Dual))
Sorted by HS overall player ranking
Bryce Young - 2nd in 2020 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Cam Newton - 3rd (JUCO) in 2010 (#1 QB)
Caleb Williams - 7th in 2021 (#2 QB)
Derrick Henry - 12th in 2013 (#1 Athlete)
Jameis Winston - 16th in 2012 (#1 QB; #1 Dual)
Reggie Bush - 17th in 2003 (#3 RB)
Tim Tebow - 21st in 2006 (#3 QB; #1 Dual QB)
Kyler Murray - 34th in 2015 (#3 QB; #1 Dual)
(Jayden Daniels was 35th in 2019 (#3 QB; #2 Dual))
Cam Newton - 43rd in 2007
Matt Leinart - 58th in 2001 (#7 QB; #4 Pro QB)
DeVonta Smith - 62nd in 2017 (#9 WR)
Mark Ingram - 114th in 2008 (#10 RB)
Troy Smith - 123rd in 2002 (#13 QB; #8 Dual QB)
Joe Burrow - 295th in 2015 (#20 QB; #8 Dual)
Robert Griffin III - 311th in 2008 (#18 QB; #6 Dual)
Sam Bradford - 348th in 2006 (#19 QB; #14 Pro QB)
Johnny Manziel - 383rd in 2011 (#22 QB; #13 Dual)
Lamar Jackson - 398th in 2015 (#28 QB; #12 Dual)
Marcus Mariota - 512th in 2011 (#31 QB; #18 Dual)
Baker Mayfield - Unranked in 2013 (#70 QB; #42 Pro)
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 12:36 pm
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:12 pm to NorthEndZone
What was Cam out of HS when he went to UF?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 pm to NorthEndZone
What point are you making?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 pm to NorthEndZone
Joe as #8 dual threat qb in 2015 and Lamar #12…lol
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:19 pm to NorthEndZone
Lmao at Jameis #1 dual threat
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:20 pm to Tiger Ike
quote:
What point are you making?
Nothing in particular. Just mostly showing that it takes a combination of factors to become a Heisman winner, HS rankings are difficult to project to college and pro football, and there is a wide range of HS player rankings that have won the award.
Just thought it was interesting to see how the facts compared over the years.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:22 pm to WaterLink
quote:
What was Cam out of HS when he went to UF?
247 has a database entry for 2007 committment to UF but no ranking numbers.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:42 pm to NorthEndZone
Which two running backs were rated higher than Reggie Bush?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:44 pm to NorthEndZone
quote:
Reggie Bush (#3 RB)
How?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:45 pm to Tyger32
quote:
Joe as #8 dual threat qb in 2015 and Lamar #12…lol
2015 was a decent year for NFL QBs
Murray
Burrow
Jackson
Sam Darnold
Drew Lock
Jake Browning
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:49 pm to WaterLink
quote:Cam was a five star on ESPN and Rivals coming out of high school.
What was Cam out of HS when he went to UF?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:54 pm to Honest Tune
quote:
Which two running backs were rated higher than Reggie Bush
247 composiate had:
#1 Demetris Summers that signed with S. Carolina (played a little in CFL)
#2 Kregg Lumpkin that signed with Georgia (played a little in the NFL for 34 games in 4 seasons)
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:54 pm to WaterLink
quote:
What was Cam out of HS when he went to UF?
#28 national, #2 Dual Threat, 5 star on Rivals
Posted on 12/6/23 at 2:30 am to NorthEndZone
Proof that QB's that have zero mobility and just an arm have gone the way of the dinosaur in college football.
Not saying our QB's have reach 1,000 rush yds like Daniels, but they can't be statues. Not sure Nuss fits that mold.
Not saying our QB's have reach 1,000 rush yds like Daniels, but they can't be statues. Not sure Nuss fits that mold.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 3:05 am to NorthEndZone
Now add in whether these guys won national championships and whether they worked out in the NFL. For the idiots who think non-running QBs are "dinosaurs".
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 3:15 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 3:18 am to Broski
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Proof that QB's that have zero mobility and just an arm have gone the way of the dinosaur
You mean, other than the 27 of 32 starting NFL QBs who aren't a running threat?
Posted on 12/6/23 at 4:24 am to emanresu
quote:
You mean, other than the 27 of 32 starting NFL QBs who aren't a running threat?
Joe Burrow is considered a dual-threat QB you dumb frick.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 4:48 am to Broski
quote:
Joe Burrow is considered a dual-threat QB you dumb frick.
How does one get rated as a “dual threat”? Simple, zone read and operating out of a shotgun offense in high school. Joe would be a good scrambler but not dual threat in the same way as Lamar or Daniels. People respect Joe for the ability to run, but they REALLY respect that arm. So I think there is a sliding scale and Joe is definitely more of a pocket passer much more like Montana and not like Steve Young for example.
Is Joe like Lamar Jackson or Newton or Griffin III? Not really.
Posted on 12/6/23 at 5:31 am to WaterLink
quote:
What was Cam out of HS when he went to UF?
ETA: Got beat to it.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 5:32 am
Posted on 12/6/23 at 5:50 am to emanresu
quote:
You mean, other than the 27 of 32 starting NFL QBs who aren't a running threat?
Why did you leave out the part of his quote that said "In College Football" ?
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