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Final LSU defense vs. 3rd & Long
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:42 pm
I posted this a couple weeks ago. Adding the Texas A&M game
Against P5 opponents. 3rd & long defined as 3rd & 8+ yards.
FSU
3rd & 12- 18 yard completion
3rd & 13- 10 yard completion
3rd & 8- 13 yard rush
2/3 conversion rate
MSU
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 17- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 10- 7 yard completion- punt on 4th down
3rd & 8- sack
3rd & 13- 9 yard rush- converted 4th & 4
3rd & 12- 11 yard completion- penalty on 4th & 1, turnover on downs
3rd & 9- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
0/10 conversion rate
Arkansas
3rd & 9- 14 yard completion
3rd & 16- sack
3rd & 9- 26 yard completion
3rd & 18- roughing the passer
3/4 conversion rate
Ole Miss
3rd & 11- 15 yard TD
3rd & 12- 7 yard completion
3rd & 10- 3 yard loss
3rd & 10- 16 yard completion
3rd & 12- incomplete
3rd & 11- 12 yard completion
3rd & 11- 35 yard completion
4/7 conversion rate
Missouri
3rd & 8- 20 yard completion
3rd & 15- 10 yard completion- converted 4th & 5
3rd & 9- 12 yard rush
3rd & 12- 17 yard completion
3rd & 13- sack
3rd & 10- incomplete
4/6 conversion rate
Auburn
3rd & 8- 12 yard loss
3rd & 8- incomplete
3rd & 23- 6 yard rush
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 9- 4 yard completion
0/5 conversion rate
Alabama
3rd & 11- 11 yard rush
3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD
3rd & 10- 18 yard rush
3/3 conversion rate
Florida
3rd & 8- sack/fumble
3rd & 18- 11 yard run
3rd & 13- LSU penalty > 3rd & 8- 18 yard pass
3rd & 11- LSU penalty > 3rd & 6- 4 yard run
3rd & 11- 12 yard pass
3rd & 30- 18 yard pass- converted 4th & 12
3/6 conversion rate, including 4th & 12
Texas A&M
3rd & 12- 13 yard completion
3rd & 11- 16 yard completion
3rd & 9- 10 yard completion
3rd & 8- 7 yard completion(converted 4th & 1)
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 10- sack
3/6 conversion rate
22/50- 44% total. This is ASTOUNDINGLY bad, like almost hard to fathom. For reference, our 3rd & Long defense against P5 teams would rank 104th in the country by itself and our total 3rd down defense is 119th at 45.2%. We are almost as bad at defending 3rd & Long as we are at defending ALL 3rd downs, including the Grambling, Army and GSU games.
Against P5 opponents. 3rd & long defined as 3rd & 8+ yards.
FSU
3rd & 12- 18 yard completion
3rd & 13- 10 yard completion
3rd & 8- 13 yard rush
2/3 conversion rate
MSU
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 17- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
3rd & 10- 7 yard completion- punt on 4th down
3rd & 8- sack
3rd & 13- 9 yard rush- converted 4th & 4
3rd & 12- 11 yard completion- penalty on 4th & 1, turnover on downs
3rd & 9- incomplete
3rd & 10- incomplete
0/10 conversion rate
Arkansas
3rd & 9- 14 yard completion
3rd & 16- sack
3rd & 9- 26 yard completion
3rd & 18- roughing the passer
3/4 conversion rate
Ole Miss
3rd & 11- 15 yard TD
3rd & 12- 7 yard completion
3rd & 10- 3 yard loss
3rd & 10- 16 yard completion
3rd & 12- incomplete
3rd & 11- 12 yard completion
3rd & 11- 35 yard completion
4/7 conversion rate
Missouri
3rd & 8- 20 yard completion
3rd & 15- 10 yard completion- converted 4th & 5
3rd & 9- 12 yard rush
3rd & 12- 17 yard completion
3rd & 13- sack
3rd & 10- incomplete
4/6 conversion rate
Auburn
3rd & 8- 12 yard loss
3rd & 8- incomplete
3rd & 23- 6 yard rush
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 9- 4 yard completion
0/5 conversion rate
Alabama
3rd & 11- 11 yard rush
3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD
3rd & 10- 18 yard rush
3/3 conversion rate
Florida
3rd & 8- sack/fumble
3rd & 18- 11 yard run
3rd & 13- LSU penalty > 3rd & 8- 18 yard pass
3rd & 11- LSU penalty > 3rd & 6- 4 yard run
3rd & 11- 12 yard pass
3rd & 30- 18 yard pass- converted 4th & 12
3/6 conversion rate, including 4th & 12
Texas A&M
3rd & 12- 13 yard completion
3rd & 11- 16 yard completion
3rd & 9- 10 yard completion
3rd & 8- 7 yard completion(converted 4th & 1)
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 10- sack
3/6 conversion rate
22/50- 44% total. This is ASTOUNDINGLY bad, like almost hard to fathom. For reference, our 3rd & Long defense against P5 teams would rank 104th in the country by itself and our total 3rd down defense is 119th at 45.2%. We are almost as bad at defending 3rd & Long as we are at defending ALL 3rd downs, including the Grambling, Army and GSU games.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 5:10 pm
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:44 pm to DBG
It’s truly disgusting
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:44 pm to DBG
Outhouse numbers.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:45 pm to DBG
quote:
Alabama
3rd & 11- 11 yard rush
3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD
3rd & 10- 18 yard rush
3/3 conversion rate
Seemed like way more
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:47 pm to DBG
3rd and House
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:50 pm to DBG
3rd down and red zone are tried and true indicators of solid scheme on either side of the ball. LSU has been really bad in those on defense even last year.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:52 pm to LSUminati
We are 124th in opponents redzone TD%. So yes we suck there too.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:52 pm to DBG
wow, without seeing the stats, while sitting in the stadium, I would have guessed at 4-4 or more, over 3rd 8 conversions. It just seemed that a&m made them all until 4th qtr.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:55 pm to DBG
LSU team defensive rankings (out of 130)
3rd down conversions 116th (.453 pct)
4th down conversions 45th (.464 pct)
first downs 87th (252)
kickoff returns 69th (20.10 avg)
passes intercepted 52nd (10)
passing yards allowed 104th (245.4)
red zone defense 114th (.905 pct)
rushing defense 89th (163.8 ypg)
scoring defense 79th (27.75)
team passing efficiency 92nd (140.63)
tackles for loss 71st (5.5 tflpg)
total defense 101st (409.2 ypg)
none of these stats are in the top 3rd of teams and only 2 in the top half of all teams
3rd down conversions 116th (.453 pct)
4th down conversions 45th (.464 pct)
first downs 87th (252)
kickoff returns 69th (20.10 avg)
passes intercepted 52nd (10)
passing yards allowed 104th (245.4)
red zone defense 114th (.905 pct)
rushing defense 89th (163.8 ypg)
scoring defense 79th (27.75)
team passing efficiency 92nd (140.63)
tackles for loss 71st (5.5 tflpg)
total defense 101st (409.2 ypg)
none of these stats are in the top 3rd of teams and only 2 in the top half of all teams
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:58 pm to DBG
TBH, I'm shocked to learn we had even 1 stop on 3rd down all season. It certainly didn't feel that way watching this shite defense.
frick you Matt House!
frick you Matt House!
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:00 pm to LSUminati
quote:
3rd down and red zone are tried and true indicators of solid scheme
^ This. And the fact the scheme hasn’t adjusted or improved significantly the past 2 years is reason enough to fire House.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:04 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
quote:
passes intercepted 52nd (10)
we had 10 interceptions!?
I can only remember 3 or 4 max (1 of them where Zy got injured for the season, greg Penn, #14 pic against arkansas
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:15 pm to Codythetiger
I wasn't sure about that stat myself but under "Passes Intercepted" it shows "Opp Intercepted 10" as opposed to "Passes Had Intercepted" which is the same number JD had intercepted (4).
I think I'm reading it correctly, but I do not remember the individual interceptions either.
I think I'm reading it correctly, but I do not remember the individual interceptions either.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:15 pm to Codythetiger
quote:
we had 10 interceptions!?
I think 3 against Army
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:17 pm to Codythetiger
quote:
we had 10 interceptions!? I can only remember 3 or 4 max (1 of them where Zy got injured for the season, greg Penn, #14 pic against arkansas
Chestnut had one in the FSU game on the play after the muffed punt.
Perkins had one in the Missouri game that flipped the momentum.
Burns had a pick 6 to close the Mizzou game.
I don’t remember the others specifically, but that’s a reasonable number.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 4:23 pm to MrWalkingMan
quote:
quote:
Alabama
3rd & 11- 11 yard rush
3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD
3rd & 10- 18 yard rush
3/3 conversion rate
=====
Seemed like way more
They had a hard time getting to 3ed down
Posted on 11/26/23 at 4:28 pm to DBG
quote:
Alabama 3rd & 11- 11 yard rush 3rd & 9- 21 yard rush TD 3rd & 10- 18 yard rush 3/3 conversion rate
Everyone but House knew Milton was running on 3rd down. This one disgusts me.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 4:48 pm to DBG
quote:
Texas A&M
3rd & 12- 13 yard completion
3rd & 11- 16 yard completion
3rd & 8- 7 yard completion(converted 4th & 1)
3rd & 10- sack
3rd & 10- sack
2/5 conversion rate
Are you sure about that? It seemed they made 2 long 3rd down conversions on every drive until the 4th quarter. I remember them making a 3rd and 8, 3rd and 9, and many in the 3rd and 10-13 range
Posted on 11/26/23 at 4:57 pm to Dubaitiger
According to the play-by-play, that is it.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 5:05 pm to DBG
There was another 3rd & 9 on that same drive as the 7 yard pass on 3rd & 8, but yeah most of the other conversions he’s thinking of were shorter.
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