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Brian Kelly and his special teams reasoning
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:08 am
TheAdvocate
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After a season filled with disastrous special teams mistakes, Brian Kelly watched the tape. He went through every game and looked at LSU’s errors, trying to examine them schematically to identify root problems and possible corrections. Kelly’s takeaway wasn’t that LSU needed to overhaul the schemes. Those looked sound.
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“If you really look at it and you take the numbers and you put them up against everybody else, we put the ball on the ground,” Kelly said Tuesday in an interview with The Advocate. “That was the difference.”
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He then promoted defensive analyst John Jancek to special teams coordinator and outside linebackers coach. The decision marked a philosophical shift in how LSU handles special teams. Schematically, not much will change. What does is how LSU teaches the concepts.
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Although Jancek has the title, Kelly said LSU would use a “decentralized operation” with increased involvement from assistant coaches and input from special teams analyst Lester Erb. It helped that analysts can now coach in practice under new NCAA rules.
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In the new approach, offensive line coach Brad Davis and offensive coordinator/tight ends coach Mike Denbrock will handle blocking for extra points and field goals. Defensive coordinator Matt House will help with kickoffs. Cornerbacks coach Robert Steeples and safeties coach Kerry Cooks will look at the punt teams. Then Jancek has more time to oversee the Jack linebackers.
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Kelly said the decision had more to do with moving Polian into a role that helps oversee the roster than taking him off special teams. “That change was not precipitated by where we ranked as much as what I needed him to do for this program,” Kelly said. “Or I would've fired him. That would've been easy.”
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As general manager, Polian will focus on recruiting, NIL, the transfer portal and daily operations within the program. Kelly described the position as one overseeing the personnel department run by Will Redmond and the recruiting office led by JR Belton. Polian is responsible for making sure they collaborate.
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Kelly considered an outside hire for the new special teams coach. He reportedly interviewed former Ole Miss special teams coordinator Marty Biagi, who left this week for the same position at Notre Dame. Ultimately though, Kelly didn’t want “the one voice special teams coordinator” who would install different schemes.
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And with so many defensive players on special teams, he’ll work with some in multiple capacities. Jancek also has time to develop the outside linebackers. Special teams won't be his only focus. In this model, LSU delegated the responsibilities. “I could overthink this and bring somebody else in, or I could really look at what are the most important pieces," Kelly said. "That is a sound and fundamental scheme, and then have somebody that has experience being in front of a room and leading a group.”
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:10 am to 7Tiger7
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we put the ball on the ground
Bye Bech
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:12 am to 7Tiger7
Decentralized ST Coordinator didn't work with O. However, I trust BK to handle this appropriately.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:13 am to 7Tiger7
I will give him the benefit of the doubt but this just doesn’t seem like a good plan. Would it not just be easier to hire a special teams coach. It seems to me the guy he wanted at Ole Miss decided to go to ND.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:17 am to 7Tiger7
What's funny is O tried this, but had no idea how to tell us about it. This is the difference between O and an Adult.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:17 am to subidc
I dont like the plan either. Harder for all coaches to get together and piece something up. Rather one person be responsible for all components. Easier for one to find out what went right/wrong than trying to hunt down whose responsibility whiffed and what coach was coaching that…
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 9:18 am
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:19 am to Captain Crown
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Bye Nabors
Amirite?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:20 am to 7Tiger7
Basically BK is saying they didn’t have the execution and best personnel on the field for ST and that’s why he moved Polian out. He even said he would have fired him if Polian wasn’t so good at recruiting and managing the portal. Polian is more an administrative guy than an on field coach guy. We’ll see if it works. It’s got to be better than last year.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:22 am to 7Tiger7
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It helped that analysts can now coach in practice under new NCAA rules.
Can we just hire Ron Brooks as a ST analyst already?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:25 am to 7Tiger7
I think the simple emphasis upon improving special teams play will be enough to make it better.
Catching the football.
Blocking.
Tackling.
It's not rocket science. It's focusing on the task and its importance.
I'll bet we have the most improved special teams in the country next season.
Catching the football.
Blocking.
Tackling.
It's not rocket science. It's focusing on the task and its importance.
I'll bet we have the most improved special teams in the country next season.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:27 am to Choupique19
Naw
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:29 am to subidc
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I will give him the benefit of the doubt but this just doesn’t seem like a good plan. Would it not just be easier to hire a special teams coach. It seems to me the guy he wanted at Ole Miss decided to go to ND.
on the one hand, ACs will just add teaching ST to their same kids they are coaching in other areas
however, this pretty much means ST will probably be pretty stale and mundane because there wont be an AC whose sole job it is to look for schematic advantages in ST game planning. I am fine with that if ST play stops losing LSU games and the unit cleans up and just does the job it is supposed to do.
I go back to the fake field goal work under Les Miles and how incredibly effective that stuff was. You need an AC to really push stuff like that to design it, put it in the practice plan, teach it to effectiveness, and then advocate for it during the game.
ST Coaching by committee probably wont have that type group ownership that a dedicated ST coach would have
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:32 am to 7Tiger7
Hope that is mainly media talk, but its insane to think everything was great except the fumbles. What about blocked FGs or terrible coverage?
Ranked 100s in special teams is more than 'putting the ball on the ground' ...nothing was sound.
Ranked 100s in special teams is more than 'putting the ball on the ground' ...nothing was sound.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:33 am to subidc
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will give him the benefit of the doubt but this just doesn’t seem like a good plan. Would it not just be easier to hire a special teams coach. It seems to me the guy he wanted at Ole Miss decided to go to ND.
Bc there are no other suitable special teams coaches out there besides the one guy ??
Seems to me Kelly is going with exactly what he thinks is best for the program.
He didn’t settle on this approach. This is what he wants to do. We will see how it goes. Similarly to any other aspect of the program on a yearly basis, I’m sure it will be evaluated as things move along and if he finds it to be in need of change, he will do so.
The biggest difference between now and previous regimes is we should be able to have confidence in the head man’s decisions given his track record and what we saw last year.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:35 am to subidc
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I will give him the benefit of the doubt but this just doesn’t seem like a good plan.
Yeah, I am gonna kinda give the coach with 250 wins the benefit of the doubt over some internet jockey with 0 wins.
I love how Kelly can give an intelligent, well thought-out answer to this and yet his idea gets shite on. It is obvious that he put a lot of thought into it and it isn't something he woke up one morning and decided to run with.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:36 am to 7Tiger7
quote:We have one responsible. We have specialized people coaching the positions. Would you rather Polian teaching people technique for blocking field goals or Davis? Would you rather House teaching leverage on return defense or some jake leg ST coordinator?
Rather one person be responsible for all components. Easier for one to find out what went right/wrong than trying to hunt down whose responsibility whiffed and what coach was coaching that…
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:37 am to supatigah
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however, this pretty much means ST will probably be pretty stale and mundane because there wont be an AC whose sole job it is to look for schematic advantages in ST game planning.
Bob Diaco and/or Lester Erb will basically be in charge of planning our special teams. That is their sole focus and they can now work with the players on the field. It'll be fine.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:47 am to 7Tiger7
I like it. This is how the big baws handle special teams
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:50 am to tigerfoot
There isnt one responsible on field… it’s all spread out between coaches and split up duties. Teaching leverages, blocking assignments, etc is fine for different coaches, because that’s how it usually works, but who will encompass all that be responsible for overall scheme? Some analyst? Then imagine communication. Multiple different coaches have to come together and report this and that to each other instead of one guy. Obviously I trust Kelly, but I would rather have 1 main honcho actively seeking improvement and trying to gain an advantage, instead of being ”average”.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:51 am to 7Tiger7
I trust BK, for sure.
But I’d be lying if the “too many cooks” in the special teams kitchen didn’t cross my mind here.
But I’d be lying if the “too many cooks” in the special teams kitchen didn’t cross my mind here.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 9:53 am
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