When the dust settles, I hope every FBS team has a chance to win the title

I don't think the small schools (TCU, BSU) have earned a 1 game shot at a title. But I'm more than willing to let them have a shot if it means winning 3 playoff games in an 8 team playoff

I think you need to shrink the FBS by at least a third by either forming a new div within the NCAA or breaking away.

I absolutely do not want an expanded playoff like other major sports

College football is highly unequal to start with. Teams play drastically different schedules and have drastically different resources.

After a long regular season IMO it is possible to pick out a limited number of teams (sometimes just 2 but often 4 to 6) who have separated themselves from the pack and deserve a chance to play for the national championship.

To any team with national championship aspirations - I feel for you if you played a solid schedule and were left in the cold (like Auburn 04) but if you ran up a great record against bad opponents? A probable BCS bowl outside of NCG consideration is the best you have earned.

I agree. Boise has proven (OU punks) they can hang with the big boys for at least 1 game. Teams like that should be able to get in the mix.

If we had 4 16-team conferences, maybe they all get seeded byes for the 1st round to account for the championship game.

I tend to think 8 teams is too many - but let's go with the thought

Scheduling would be an issue and travel would be an issue - a possible solution for this might be having the first round of the 8 team playoff immediately after (1-2 weeks) the end of the regular season (the top four seeds get to host the visiting 5-8 seeds)

Then you have a break for final exams and your four remaining contenders are incorporated into two week/two round bowl system using three of the bowls as venues (Sugar, Orange, Rose, Fiesta)

The down side to this is one major BCS bowl does not participate in the playoff every year - but on the whole it is much more manageable than trying to coordinate 8 teams traveling to different venues on three consecutive weeks.

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I don't think the small schools (TCU, BSU) have earned a 1 game shot at a title.

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But Oregon last year and Texas the year before did?

Last year, Oregon had only one win against a team that wasn't barely in the rankings, and it was Stanford (#9) at home. TCU had Utah (#5) on the road in a packed house that had a more raucous atmosphere than most SEC games (at the beginning at least). Even their common opponent had similar outcomes (Oregon State).

The only reason we aren't talking about TCU deserving the shot at Alabama more than UT did is their loss to Boise in the Fiesta.

This picture sucks, but it compares Texas, TCU, and Cincinatti that year before the conference championship (which Texas needed a second out back on the clock to have a chance to win):

LINK (sorry, on a phone and can't resize and the mods took down the large image)


Cincinatti, TCU, Texas.


Nobody has the resume that the SEC champ does, and a lot of yall on this site consider teams like TCU and Boise against the SEC champ, but you don't do the same for potential opponents coming from other BCS conferences nor do you consider those non-SEC teams resume against the non-BCS teams.


Cue the assholes that have nothing better to so saying GTFO or something else dismissive, without adding anything substantive to the conversation.

I am not worried about the logistics of 8 teams. This thread was more about the idea that all FBS teams should have a shot at the title.

As I said, eight teams means three weekends...first weekend would have four games at the campus of the higher seeded team. Travel issues, in this case, would be minimized. This game could be played before Christmas, but after conference title games.

Final Four and Title game (two weekends/three games) could be played some time in January.

Yes, I agree that four major bowls would be involved, and one would not get a playoff game each year...so be it...they can still have a game like they do today...

I have outlined this in a thread on the More Sports Board, but that thread assumed six BCS conferences, and two at-large teams. Who knows how many major conferences will be left after this...but I still believe that leaving at least one spot for the best small school would be a great idea...but I would only want to do this if there was an 8 team playoff...anything less than 8 teams, I think you could be taking a spot from a more deserving team.

I'm the last guy to argue for tu in anything. But to say TCU deserved to go to the title game over the big XII champ is insane.

Texas beat OU, Ok St, Texas A&M and Nebraska.

TCU beat Utah??

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none? what's the attendance at those D2 and D3 playoff games?

and that is an issue - there are BCS bowl games where attendance has been poor (even with plenty of time for fans to travel and only one end of season game for them to attend)

There is probably more hassle arranging travel for the LSU band than there is for teams in D2 and D3

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if schools and fans in every single other division of college football can make it work then there is no good reason the D1A schools can't.

I'm sorry but if your biggest worry is potential attendance issues (which most bowls already have) or the ability to bring a band well that's just not good enough to say no to a playoff.

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I don't think the small schools (TCU, BSU) have earned a 1 game shot at a title. But I'm more than willing to let them have a shot if it means winning 3 playoff games in an 8 team playoff

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somebody else gets it, woooo.

5 14 team conferences + 3 at large from either BCS or non-aq conferences with the highest rankings.