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re: There is one big misconception about the Texas and A&M scenario
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:31 am to Carlos Santannaclaus
Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:31 am to Carlos Santannaclaus
Texas would only be the 4th or 5th best team in the SEC.
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Posted on 6/12/10 at 8:58 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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It can't happen soon enough. Wait until LSU is #2 in the country, travels to College Station to end the season, wins by 20, and falls to #3 in the BCS......then you will understand.
The SEC is not the big 12.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 9:43 am to SOL
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Texas HS kids will choose to play in the SEC rather than the PAC 10. Their parents will too. A&M, LSU and ARK will rack up on recruiting Texas players.
UT and OU will lose.
A&M will become a powerhouse again like they were in the 80s. Stallings/Slocum/Perry will pave the way.
Agree. A lot of the players Texas use to get will now start looking at SEC Schools, especially A & M if the Aggies come to the SEC. It will be the same thing for players that OU is use to getting in Texas and Oklahoma. The Hogs have made big inroads into Oklahoma the last few years and the Hogs will continue to broaden their appeal to players in the Sooner state. Arkansas will also continue to expand their recruiting in Texas as the appeal for playing against teams in the SEC will look very appealing compared to playing the teams in the Big PAC.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 9:48 am to packdaddy75
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Hey Longhorns...WARNING: Do not open link unless you would like to relive 2 QB's getting knocked out of the game (that's what happens when you are a finesse Big 12 team facing an SEC defense) or if you are expecting a highlight of a texass running back....you had negative rushing yards this day in the Cotton Bowl. Way to represent the Big 12 in a bowl game....no wonder your conference is falling apart faster than an 8 team all TX conference without Razorbacks
I was at the game that day. Before the game Longhorn arrogance was prevalent. After the game it was in very, very short supply.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 9:49 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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That is not the impression I have from UT boards, which has left a bad taste in my mouth and a negative impression.
The UT boards are filled with the type of booster you love to hate. Arrogant pricks that talk big when they are in a group, but aren't much themselves.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:21 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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You also know that any conference with Texas, OU and USC is pretty damn hard to win.
Provided the Pac 10 establishes a championship game for the new PAC 16. If you don't have a conference championship game, you just end up on the inside track to division east champions, whatever that would mean
Posted on 6/12/10 at 10:33 am to TulsaTimeTiger
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Provided the Pac 10 establishes a championship game for the new PAC 16. If you don't have a conference championship game, you just end up on the inside track to division east champions, whatever that would mean
All the entire realignment means is TV dollars. The Fudge PAC whatever would have 16 teams in some of the biggest TV markets around, and they'd have leverage in their negotiations with ESPN, CBS, Fox, or whoever else is interested in televising their games.
All in all, it's inexpensive to program 3 to 3.5 hours of football vs. regular programming. That's why reality shows are so popular. And if your target audience is males 18-54, football delivers that audience like no other.
So the Fudge PAC whatever get to tease the networks with some pretty big markets and threaten to take them to the next guy, and get their price. I understand they've hired CAA (Creative Artists Agency-a big time talent agency) to negotiate their TV deal.
For me, it sucks that traditions and relationships take a back seat to the buck. I grew up watching Texas and A&M, I know tons of people that went to each school, and it sucks that could break up.
I'm just damn glad my daughter went to LSU and introduced me to SEC football. I'd be committing hari-kari about now without that.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 11:22 am to SOL
[quote]Some schools brag about recent BCS titles and some schools proudly proclaim their regular season accomplishments from 10 years ago because, well, that is all they have. I could talk about what happened the last time our 2 schools met, but I just can't bring myself to do it......I pity you guys too much......[/quote
.....and some schools are full of scared pussies, and some schools are full of Texass size pussies who are scared to play against the best competition available. Go to the PAC 10 and play against teasm that play your style. Texass is nothing more than a finesse team looking for a finesse conference to join. Congrats Texas, you have found a home in what use to be known as the PAC 10, but will now be called the PUSSY 13 + Texas, Okies, USC.
.....and some schools are full of scared pussies, and some schools are full of Texass size pussies who are scared to play against the best competition available. Go to the PAC 10 and play against teasm that play your style. Texass is nothing more than a finesse team looking for a finesse conference to join. Congrats Texas, you have found a home in what use to be known as the PAC 10, but will now be called the PUSSY 13 + Texas, Okies, USC.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 2:34 pm to Carlos Santannaclaus
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All the entire realignment means is TV dollars.
That says it all...what other reason would Texas and OU go to the Fudge PAC? They have no common traditions. It is sad that we could be entering a new phase that will wash away more traditions in CFB.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 4:16 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
"I have nothing against UT, but their path to the BCS is practically a joke. Generally about 1 legit road game per year."
THIS.....over and over again!!!
THIS.....over and over again!!!
Posted on 6/12/10 at 4:21 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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you guys know Texas has a damn good program and can play with anyone.
37-21
Posted on 6/12/10 at 4:45 pm to therocketscientist
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The SEC legitimately just does not want UT to be in the conference, and it is not because UT is a strong team, it is because the culture of UT is not thought of as preferred by SEC folks. We have an Ole Miss already.
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Just not true
Stop posting your opinion as "SEC opinion".
Posted on 6/12/10 at 5:01 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Get the frick over yourself. A&M doesn't need Texas. It is a school with 50K students, plenty of money and great facilities. What you should be worried about is the fact that now A&M will have something different to sell Texas recruits and their families. And will have a way to differentiate itself from any other school in the state when it is on the recruiting trail. A better conference with more football tradition than the Pac 10 except for Texas, OU and USC. The rest of those schools have nice programs but their venues don't match the SEC. Oregon is a tough place to play and has a great atmosphere but the rest not so much.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 5:14 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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.....however, if if the current rumors hold fast and this gets A&M & Texas in different conferences and we don't have to play and/or end our season against a BCS killer like the Aggies than I am all for it.
I'm sorry to tell you but, I still think UT and Texas will play the final weekend of the season.
They won't stop playing.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:00 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
UT=big hat no cattle
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:29 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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secfan123, go work yourself into a lather by posting a few "texas is skeered" comments so you can feel good about yourself again because you are too small a dog to wander in the tall grass.
Then why is Texas so desperate for A&M to go with them? Nothing else makes any sense (its QUITE) easy to maintain a rivalry across conferences. The fact is, Texas A&M splits the Texas market (I know its not 50-50, but it is still significant) if they go to the SEC. The pac 10 has rating problems as it is (they made very little last year compared to the Big 10 and SEC last year and the "football fans" on the west coast are casual at best. With USC going down (bandwaon fans galore) the Pac 10 NEEDS every market they can muster. (Hell by the time USC sucks again like the 80's and 90's, A&M will probably average higher TV ratings than USC, who couldn't fill half their stadium when they were down).
Posted on 6/12/10 at 6:43 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
We can't go to the SEC because their academics suck" thread. I genuinely can't figure out what boards you have visited.
Shaggy Bevo for one. Unless there is another Dr. Drunkenstein out there in cyberworld... Honestly, I've read your posts. You like the Big 10 and have not overtly criticized the SEC.
Guilty by association.
Shaggy Bevo for one. Unless there is another Dr. Drunkenstein out there in cyberworld... Honestly, I've read your posts. You like the Big 10 and have not overtly criticized the SEC.
Guilty by association.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:13 pm to nuwaydawg
I haven't read all the posts...
But did anyone ever point out to the OP that the reason that Texas dropped from #2 to #3 following their defeat of Texas A&M is not because the Aggies dragged their ranking down.
It's because the pollsters finally got serious about the rating when they realized that the last poll of the season is important with respect to who actually deserved to play for the national championship.
The pollsters collectively decided that Oklahoma, who similarly defeated Texas A&M, deserved it more than Texas, despite their head-to-head loss.
The pollsters got it right.
But did anyone ever point out to the OP that the reason that Texas dropped from #2 to #3 following their defeat of Texas A&M is not because the Aggies dragged their ranking down.
It's because the pollsters finally got serious about the rating when they realized that the last poll of the season is important with respect to who actually deserved to play for the national championship.
The pollsters collectively decided that Oklahoma, who similarly defeated Texas A&M, deserved it more than Texas, despite their head-to-head loss.
The pollsters got it right.
Posted on 6/12/10 at 7:42 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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The over-whelming majority of Texas fans, and the university bigwigs, want A&M to go their own way. It is the politicians who want to keep 'everyone' together in an attempt to appease the Tech and Baylor camps. Playing A&M during the BCS era has been devastating for Texas. In 2008, we went in to the Aggie game as the #2 team in the nation. We trashed the Aggies 49-9 on national TV but the BCS ranking of the Aggies sucked so bad that it dropped Texas to #3 and out of the national title picture. The same thing would have happened in 2005 and Texas would have been robbed of their national title season but Michigan scored a very late TD to beat Penn State, otherwise PSU would have leap-frogged Texas. Texas beat A&M in College Station that year but the Aggies low BCS ranking would have again been a poison pill. As long as Texas and A&M are in the same conference, that will always be the last regular season game for Texas. Texas desperately needs out of this situation so we can finish the season against a solid opponent to have a chance in the BCS rankings. Keep saying that Texas is afraid of the SEC and whatever else makes you feel good. Deep down, you guys know Texas has a damn good program and can play with anyone. You also know that any conference with Texas, OU and USC is pretty damn hard to win. The really funny thing about all of this will be watching the Aggies.......the Aggies will most certainly struggle in the SEC and the fact that they won't be able to finish each year with the chance to redeem their season by playing Texas will make it all the more painful for A&M.
And you don't think that Texass will be playing teams that are lightly regarded/lowly ranked in the Pac 10???
Do YOU think that Texass was the only team ever robbed of playing for a NC? If you do ask Auburn if they feel that they have ever been shafted after going undefeated in the SEC and still not playing for a NC!
Hell, at least AU had a real beef, after surviving an SEC schedule, compared to you in the Big 12!
Texas A&M showed that they have a set by choosing to go and play in the toughest football conference in America, while your Schlonghorns ran TWO time zones away to keep from having to play men instead of boys!
Texas A&M will recover from the down period that they have been in and will fare well in the SEC eventually, while Texas fans will grow weary of late night games and long travel time to see a game out west.
Enjoy it for now, because Texas has had a hand in destroying every conference they have been a part of and the Pac 10 will eventually be no different.
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