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re: Texas/A&M/OU/Okie State
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:48 am to Dr Drunkenstein
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:48 am to Dr Drunkenstein
Texas to the SEC is by far the easiest and most natural home for them. We allow 3rd tier rights. Geographically it makes much more sense than the Pac 12. UT could keep it's rivalries with OU and aTm. There really is no reason why UT should want to go anywhere else other than the competition. Wow what a dominant conference that would be. Also, the divisions would be geographically accurate as well as competitively even. It's the perfect conference.
West:
OU
OSU
Texas
aTm
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
MSU
East:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
USC
Kentucky
Vandy
West:
OU
OSU
Texas
aTm
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
MSU
East:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
USC
Kentucky
Vandy
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:51 am to Monticello
Gotta admit, this theory would explain the quick brush-off of WVU. Even though WVU doesn't offer that many eyeballs watching TVs, there just flat out aren't that many options better than WVU out there for the SEC.....unless Slive is thinking REALLY big.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:51 am to Monticello
quote:
Also, the divisions would be geographically accurate as well as competitively even. It's the perfect conference.
Agreed. I'd love for this scenario to happen, which means it probably won't.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:52 am to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:the funny thing is that the Pac-12 is not rated significantly higher than the SEC (with A&M added) in terms of academic rankings.
There is no doubt that the Cal-alum president of Texas is an academic snob and has always wanted Texas in the Pac 12
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:52 am to Monticello
quote:
There really is no reason why UT should want to go anywhere else other than the competition
Some of the people making these decisions place academics highly, but I guess we won't know if that matters more than the football prestige of the SEC.
As an LSU fan, I'd miss playing Bama and Auburn every season. OU and UT would be very interesting away games and uber-competitive.
For the money, if Slive and co. are able to sway Texas to the SEC, I would think that they would go balls out for UNC/VT (instead of OU/Okie St.) Maybe Even FSU if VT doesn't work out. No new markets, but the program is historical like OU
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to Dr Drunkenstein
I'd have absolutely no problem with this. Having Texas is the ideal outcome IMO.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:56 am
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
That would probably be an awesome move for the SEC. But, even the sips at work say texas has always been down on the SEC saying the academics are too far beneath them. Further,and even more so than all the other conferences texas has seemingly "ended negotiations with," the SEC probably wouldn't be willing to be pushed around with the lhn.
That said, I'm sure wherever texas ends up will be exactly what they've wanted all along, though, so congrats on that, I guess.

That said, I'm sure wherever texas ends up will be exactly what they've wanted all along, though, so congrats on that, I guess.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:
Gotta admit, this theory would explain the quick brush-off of WVU. Even though WVU doesn't offer that many eyeballs watching TVs, there just flat out aren't that many options better than WVU out there for the SEC.....unless Slive is thinking REALLY big.
I agree with this. Unless he plans on raiding the ACC for teams like UNC/VT/FSU/MD, going for Texas/OU/Okie St. makes a lot of sense.
I really don't know what to think about Mizzou's odds of coming to the SEC. Just doesn't seem like a good fit for them, even though Missouri has some nice TV markets.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:57 am to Dr Drunkenstein
I would hate to see Auburn and Alabama move East....
As good as those programs are, I love playing them every single year. Alabama-LSU and Auburn-LSU are two of the Top10 SEC games of the year and I want those annual games to continue.
I am not in favor of throwing a bone to Texas or OU if one or the other get stuck with no quality home. Texas has put itself in this pickle and they now get to deal with the consequences of their actions.
All that said, I get the feeling OU wants no part of the SEC. They are either Pac14 or Big12. I could certainly see Texas scrambling and begging for a home in the SEC though when all is said and done if the Pac14 tells them no.
As good as those programs are, I love playing them every single year. Alabama-LSU and Auburn-LSU are two of the Top10 SEC games of the year and I want those annual games to continue.
I am not in favor of throwing a bone to Texas or OU if one or the other get stuck with no quality home. Texas has put itself in this pickle and they now get to deal with the consequences of their actions.
All that said, I get the feeling OU wants no part of the SEC. They are either Pac14 or Big12. I could certainly see Texas scrambling and begging for a home in the SEC though when all is said and done if the Pac14 tells them no.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:57 am to Dr Drunkenstein
It's the more logical fit but Texas and OK apparently have big reservations...also the LHN is a dealbreaker.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:00 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:it could lead to LSU versus Auburn or Alabama in the SEC title game...hmmmmm
I would hate to see Auburn and Alabama move East....
As good as those programs are, I love playing them every single year. Alabama-LSU and Auburn-LSU are two of the Top10 SEC games of the year and I want those annual games to continue.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:01 pm to Chicken
quote:
the funny thing is that the Pac-12 is not rated significantly higher than the SEC (with A&M added) in terms of academic rankings.
It is specifically about his love/adoration for Cal, Stanford & UCLA. In the grand scheme of things it is silly.....but we are prisoners of his wants.
quote:
Further,and even more so than all the other conferences texas has seemingly "ended negotiations with," the SEC probably wouldn't be willing to be pushed around with the lhn.
I think Texas originally focused on the Pac, Big 10 and ACC because of academics BUT it is looking like the Regents desire for $ for the university may trump the academic aspirations of the President.
Recently, we have seen a few school have BOR meetings to give their presidents full control to find a new conference. Whose president was the only one so far not given full control? President Powers at Texas.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:03 pm to Chicken
quote:
Drunk, why do I get the feeling you are trolling and making this up?
Because you realize that DD has no life, and gets his jollies trolling.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:03 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
It would not be a bad scenario that's for sure...however I'm not a fan of UT. UT would have to agree to only 1 out of conference game on the LHN per year and zero mention of high school sports of any kind. Other than that - I think it would work.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:05 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
I am not in favor of throwing a bone to Texas or OU if one or the other get stuck with no quality home. Texas has put itself in this pickle and they now get to deal with the consequences of their actions.
You are thinking like a middle school girl who wants to see something bad happen to the popular/pretty girl. Think like a conference commissioner.
quote:
It's the more logical fit but Texas and OK apparently have big reservations...also the LHN is a dealbreaker.
Why? The SEC allows teams to do what they want with their 3rd tier rights. Texas would agree not to put any SEC games on LHN - what is the problem?
quote:
UT would have to agree to only 1 out of conference game on the LHN per year and zero mention of high school sports of any kind.
Zero high school games is already the policy of the NCAA. However, why couldn't Texas show 2 OOC games on LHN?
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:05 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
if Texas is allowed in the SEC Slive should be skinned.
/thread
/thread
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:06 pm to Monticello
quote:would LSU's deal with Cox Sports be considered 3rd tier rights? What schools presently in the SEC have 3rd tier TV deals, and how much do they keep of it?
We allow 3rd tier rights.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:06 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Nobody is taking the LHN. Every major conference will eventually have a network and they are not going to allow Texas to take away from potential earning power
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:08 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:
.....can you name a better outcome for all SEC members than Texas/OU/Okie State joining with A&M.
The SEC would win at least 8 NC's every decade for the next 100 years!
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:08 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
quote:
However, why couldn't Texas show 2 OOC games on LHN?
The SEC essentially allows schools control of just one OOC game, which ends up as PPV. If Texas wants if for the LHN, then so be it. Plus, the OOC which ends up on LHN will be the call of the TV networks from the Tier 1 deal and not UT.
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