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re: Texas/A&M/OU/Okie State

Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:48 am to
Texas to the SEC is by far the easiest and most natural home for them. We allow 3rd tier rights. Geographically it makes much more sense than the Pac 12. UT could keep it's rivalries with OU and aTm. There really is no reason why UT should want to go anywhere else other than the competition. Wow what a dominant conference that would be. Also, the divisions would be geographically accurate as well as competitively even. It's the perfect conference.

West:
OU
OSU
Texas
aTm
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
MSU

East:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
USC
Kentucky
Vandy
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:51 am to
Gotta admit, this theory would explain the quick brush-off of WVU. Even though WVU doesn't offer that many eyeballs watching TVs, there just flat out aren't that many options better than WVU out there for the SEC.....unless Slive is thinking REALLY big.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21645 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:51 am to
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Also, the divisions would be geographically accurate as well as competitively even. It's the perfect conference.


Agreed. I'd love for this scenario to happen, which means it probably won't.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26904 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:52 am to
quote:

There is no doubt that the Cal-alum president of Texas is an academic snob and has always wanted Texas in the Pac 12
the funny thing is that the Pac-12 is not rated significantly higher than the SEC (with A&M added) in terms of academic rankings.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:53 am
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:52 am to
quote:

There really is no reason why UT should want to go anywhere else other than the competition

Some of the people making these decisions place academics highly, but I guess we won't know if that matters more than the football prestige of the SEC.

As an LSU fan, I'd miss playing Bama and Auburn every season. OU and UT would be very interesting away games and uber-competitive.

For the money, if Slive and co. are able to sway Texas to the SEC, I would think that they would go balls out for UNC/VT (instead of OU/Okie St.) Maybe Even FSU if VT doesn't work out. No new markets, but the program is historical like OU
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:54 am
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10202 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to
I'd have absolutely no problem with this. Having Texas is the ideal outcome IMO.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 11:56 am
Posted by deadelephant
Texas
Member since Sep 2011
102 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to
That would probably be an awesome move for the SEC. But, even the sips at work say texas has always been down on the SEC saying the academics are too far beneath them. Further,and even more so than all the other conferences texas has seemingly "ended negotiations with," the SEC probably wouldn't be willing to be pushed around with the lhn.

That said, I'm sure wherever texas ends up will be exactly what they've wanted all along, though, so congrats on that, I guess.

Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Gotta admit, this theory would explain the quick brush-off of WVU. Even though WVU doesn't offer that many eyeballs watching TVs, there just flat out aren't that many options better than WVU out there for the SEC.....unless Slive is thinking REALLY big.

I agree with this. Unless he plans on raiding the ACC for teams like UNC/VT/FSU/MD, going for Texas/OU/Okie St. makes a lot of sense.

I really don't know what to think about Mizzou's odds of coming to the SEC. Just doesn't seem like a good fit for them, even though Missouri has some nice TV markets.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28326 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:57 am to
I would hate to see Auburn and Alabama move East....

As good as those programs are, I love playing them every single year. Alabama-LSU and Auburn-LSU are two of the Top10 SEC games of the year and I want those annual games to continue.

I am not in favor of throwing a bone to Texas or OU if one or the other get stuck with no quality home. Texas has put itself in this pickle and they now get to deal with the consequences of their actions.

All that said, I get the feeling OU wants no part of the SEC. They are either Pac14 or Big12. I could certainly see Texas scrambling and begging for a home in the SEC though when all is said and done if the Pac14 tells them no.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17236 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:57 am to
It's the more logical fit but Texas and OK apparently have big reservations...also the LHN is a dealbreaker.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26904 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I would hate to see Auburn and Alabama move East....

As good as those programs are, I love playing them every single year. Alabama-LSU and Auburn-LSU are two of the Top10 SEC games of the year and I want those annual games to continue.
it could lead to LSU versus Auburn or Alabama in the SEC title game...hmmmmm
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

the funny thing is that the Pac-12 is not rated significantly higher than the SEC (with A&M added) in terms of academic rankings.


It is specifically about his love/adoration for Cal, Stanford & UCLA. In the grand scheme of things it is silly.....but we are prisoners of his wants.

quote:

Further,and even more so than all the other conferences texas has seemingly "ended negotiations with," the SEC probably wouldn't be willing to be pushed around with the lhn.


I think Texas originally focused on the Pac, Big 10 and ACC because of academics BUT it is looking like the Regents desire for $ for the university may trump the academic aspirations of the President.

Recently, we have seen a few school have BOR meetings to give their presidents full control to find a new conference. Whose president was the only one so far not given full control? President Powers at Texas.
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
Houston
Member since Jan 2008
3272 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Drunk, why do I get the feeling you are trolling and making this up?


Because you realize that DD has no life, and gets his jollies trolling.
Posted by Dice
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
896 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:03 pm to
It would not be a bad scenario that's for sure...however I'm not a fan of UT. UT would have to agree to only 1 out of conference game on the LHN per year and zero mention of high school sports of any kind. Other than that - I think it would work.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I am not in favor of throwing a bone to Texas or OU if one or the other get stuck with no quality home. Texas has put itself in this pickle and they now get to deal with the consequences of their actions.


You are thinking like a middle school girl who wants to see something bad happen to the popular/pretty girl. Think like a conference commissioner.

quote:

It's the more logical fit but Texas and OK apparently have big reservations...also the LHN is a dealbreaker.


Why? The SEC allows teams to do what they want with their 3rd tier rights. Texas would agree not to put any SEC games on LHN - what is the problem?

quote:

UT would have to agree to only 1 out of conference game on the LHN per year and zero mention of high school sports of any kind.


Zero high school games is already the policy of the NCAA. However, why couldn't Texas show 2 OOC games on LHN?

Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27381 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:05 pm to
if Texas is allowed in the SEC Slive should be skinned.

/thread
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26904 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

We allow 3rd tier rights.
would LSU's deal with Cox Sports be considered 3rd tier rights? What schools presently in the SEC have 3rd tier TV deals, and how much do they keep of it?
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:06 pm to
Nobody is taking the LHN. Every major conference will eventually have a network and they are not going to allow Texas to take away from potential earning power
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1252 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:08 pm to


quote:

.....can you name a better outcome for all SEC members than Texas/OU/Okie State joining with A&M.


The SEC would win at least 8 NC's every decade for the next 100 years!
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
83707 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

However, why couldn't Texas show 2 OOC games on LHN?



The SEC essentially allows schools control of just one OOC game, which ends up as PPV. If Texas wants if for the LHN, then so be it. Plus, the OOC which ends up on LHN will be the call of the TV networks from the Tier 1 deal and not UT.
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