re: Politicians could force Texas to play A&M against its will

#1) Longhorns should realize that if they end the series they look like weak bitches. Them considering no longer playing us is already making them look like weak bitches. If I were a longhorn I'd be embarrassed that the idea is even being floated.

#2) If legislature already admitted that they can't influence a school's conference affiliation, why would they meddle in a single game? This is some real nonsensical b.s. being spewed.

Geez, these UTa guys and their "A&M has no money because they used a loan" bullshite.

It's not like we weren't generating revenue. We are Top 20 in the nation in revenue generated in a bad year. We just needed/wanted to spend a little more to do some catching up with facilities. Luckily, our university has enough money to do that and it not be a big deal. FTR, then President Gates offered the loan. The AD didn't even ask for it. But, Gates wanted to speed up the process.

It will be nice in the SEC though. In the SEC athletic departments loan the academic side money. Now that's a cash cow I'm looking forward to

nb4longhornaclaimA&Misonlyleavingformoney

The Ags lead in the last 35 years...once scholarship limitations were put into place, the oil rick bastards in austin could not buy every high school athlete (at least without getting caught). eric dickerson nailed FUTEXAS in his 30/30 how they CHEATED like crazy.

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I care about the future and if we can bury aggy by not playing them again and forcing them to play all of their away games outside of the state of Texas, I'm all for it.
As said on another board, if you get a divorce you don't invite your ex-wife over for Thanksgiving dinner anymore. Why should we want anything to do with the petty, jealous bitches?

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What a bunch of sandy vaginas UT has. You sound like the jealous bitches.

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I don't think we should be giving them a national marquee game in the state of Texas if they bail.

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Wut? You don't think playing Alabama or LSU at Kyle Field on CBS is a marquee game? BTW A National Network > an obscure cable Network that not everyone will carry.

Any whoo, the rest of your bitter tirade makes little sense. Why would they want to play many away games in state?

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Everyone is sick and friggin tired of UT walking around on uneven ground and acting like they own the place. Other universities no longer are OK with UT blatantly taking an unequal share of the pie. They're sick of it and they're leaving for greener pastures, where the revenue sharing is equal.

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A&M has voted for unequal revenue sharing every time n the Big 12. It was unequal revenue sharing last summer that kept A&M in the Big 12, about $7 million more/year than 70% of the conference membership. Of course, once ESPN surprised everyone with $15 million/year just for Texas, well, then equality became very important for A&M.

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That doesnt mean that within the realm of competitive sports the rivalry isnt still there. That doesnt mean that you two should stop playing. If you want to stop playing A&M then you're just a bitter old ex-girlfriend who's scared of getting hurt again.

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I can only speak for myself. I am glad A&M is thrilled about being the Summer of 2011 conference realignment champions. I just want to wash my hands of A&M. I want to be done with them. We have dealt with decades of endless complaining. I don't want us to interact with them any more. I want the bitching to stop once and for all. It is what is best for both schools.

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It must suck to be a UTa fan... the only game you'll play worth a frick will be OU... if they stay.

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Do you really believe that? A quick look at out future schedules would make you realize that is a silly statement.

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And I may be in the minority, but I am one Aggie who actually agrees with Dr. D that it's in both schools' best interests to end the relationship.

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Amen to that.

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I dunno. Seems like ut fans would have a reason to care now, like to show it was a mistake to leave or something.

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How could it be a mistake for A&M to leave? The fans want it, the administrators want it. I am no Baylor fan staring C-USA in the face. A&M will be fine, Texas will be fine.

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Remember when I said all UTexas is "is spin?" Well, this is a subsection of that. The horns want to put up a front that they aren't playing A&M, ever, again. But they want to keep playing A&M, to preserve a top-10 All Time rivalry game

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Based on everything I have read form multiple source, the Texas AD is set on ending the series. Of course that isn't a guarantee but I am convinced it will happen.

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what is UT's take on aTm fans and their gameday expperience? Do they travel well...what kind of reputation do they have?

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A&M has their weird traditions but most of the folks are fine and they travel well. I have 2 aggie brother-in-laws that are good guys. College Station is a unique gameday experience.

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How would any tu-A&M matchup be on LHN when the Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks can choose to air the game before it even gets to LHN? And doesn't the agreement still require the other school's consent even for an OOC game?

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ESPN would love to have it on LHN and Texas would make sure that, if the game is forced upon them, that is where it went. ESPN would pay Fox whatever is necessary.

As for your 2nd question, an OOC opponent's consent is not required.

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F the U of TEXAS! Selfish, arrogant, bastards...aTm is doing what's best for them and FU TEXAS cannot handle it!!! "we're texas" symbolizes all of you. Dr. Drunkenwhatever, I am willing to bet u never graduated from that place.

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I'm glad A&M is doing what it wants. I wish it was over already. As for the graduation talk, this is a favorite attack of Texas Tech fans. Yes, I got my undergrad degree from Texas.

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If UT has no desire to play aggy in the future there is no way the legislature can force it. There are too many UT, TT and BU legislators to allow it out of committee. At least that's what I'm told by Texas co-workers.

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I hope your co-workers are right. Still, Texas politicians are crazy and are capable of anything.

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Longhorns should realize that if they end the series they look like weak bitches. Them considering no longer playing us is already making them look like weak bitches. If I were a longhorn I'd be embarrassed that the idea is even being floated.

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Whatever.....I just want a complete break from everything having to do with Texas A&M.

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As things stand right now it looks like the horns will continue to play OU at a neutral site and there will be close to zero compelling match-ups for the horn fans to enjoy on their field

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We will have compelling games against top tier programs on our home field. We'll be fine.

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We are Top 20 in the nation in revenue generated in a bad year. We just needed/wanted to spend a little more to do some catching up with facilities. Luckily, our university has enough money to do that and it not be a big deal.

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Recently, your university with "enough money" had to abandon on-campus toilet paper.

Texas A&M can't spare a square

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(Original Questions)
How would any tu-A&M matchup be on LHN when the Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks can choose to air the game before it even gets to LHN? And doesn't the agreement still require the other school's consent even for an OOC game?

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ESPN would love to have it on LHN and Texas would make sure that, if the game is forced upon them, that is where it went. ESPN would pay Fox whatever is necessary.

As for your 2nd question, an OOC opponent's consent is not required.

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Thanks for the response, seriously.

I can't see A&M agreeing to play Texas in any of the major sports (not just football) where the game would be broadcast exclusively on LHN. And maybe not any of the minor ones either.

So if you think the rivalry is coming to an end you're probably right.

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The idea of the LHN being the home of all UT home games like ND on NBC sounds like a pipe dream. Big name OOC opponents might not have strict veto power per se, but they could say they would only play UT if the game was on a regular network. Why would you want to play a marquee OOC game and have it broadcast on an obscure network?

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That is the point.

This is a unique circumstance.

When Texas plays a marquee OOC game it will always be on something like ESPN or ABC primetime. Putting this game on the LHN is my theory and would only come about if the legislature says Texas and A&M have to keep playing each other.

Apparently, this is not without precedent:

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The Florida Times-Union, January 23, 1955, page 66 The University of Florida and Florida State University which haven't been able to agree on a football game may be forced to if a bill being drafted for the 1955 legislature becomes law. State Senator Harry Stratton of Callahan said yesterday such a measure was being drawn by Assistant Attorney General Tom Henderson and he planned to introduce it on the first day of the session which begins in April. Competition between the two state schools has been strongly urged from several quarters in the past few years. Florida athletic director and coach Bob Woodruff and FSU athletic director Howard Danford discussed the issue at a December conference but no agreement was reached. Dr. Danford said Woodruff had offered to meet FSU in minor sports provided Florida State did not seek competition in football, basketball or baseball. Woodruff said Florida would be unable to schedule FSU in the major sports because of its Southeastern Conference commitments and traditional rivalry with the University of Miami. Senator Stratton, who said he expected to have several co-sponsors of the bill, said "we won't attempt to try to make them play this coming year but we intend to try to make them play in 1956 if possible, preferably in Jacksonville." He said the bill is being copied after the Wisconsin law. The Wisconsin legislature passed an act forcing football games between the University of Wisconsin and Marquette University after the University of Wisconsin refused to meet Marquette. Other schools which have been compelled by law to play each other are the University of Alabama and Auburn, Georgia and Georgia Tech, and Clemson and South Carolina.

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...screwy our legal system is. Meet any lawyer who does Texas law and they'll say the same thing.

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My limited exposure to TX law would confirm that. Compared to other over-lawyered states like LA & FL, TX is a whole other country.

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And I may be in the minority, but I am one Aggie who actually agrees with Dr. D that it's in both schools' best interests to end the relationship.

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Auburn and Alabama did not play football for about twenty years in a dispute over travel allowances--a real case of legislative involvement.

I think that even if these two stopped playing it would only be for a while.

Who else would ATM sing about? Who else would UT make fun of? They are co-dependent whether in the same conference or not.

Look at other intrastate rivals not in the same conference--UGA-Ga Tech, UF-FSU--they are big rivalries. A few years of not playing will only make these two more bitter. They will likely start facing each other in Jerry's World each year.

Personally, the talk and possible decision of them not play us anymore is great PR for us. Our president has said all the right things.
We want whats best for A&M ($$$, visibility, and stability), and whats best for the state (continue to play whorns, and facilitate finding a replacement team).

Now the news out of Austin is they will run home crying and never play us again, and they will block a move to allow another large state public institution (UH) to join a BCS conference and will target ND (pipe dream) or BYU.

If they wanna be idiots and sour their national perception, go for it.

In the end, A&M will come out ahead and will no longer have to worry about being in a stable conference. Texas on the other hand, has a lot of question marks ahead and is now sitting on an embarassing failure known as the LHN.