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re: Does the SEC need another Texas school or are the Aggies enough?
Posted on 9/29/11 at 6:25 pm to daboman of Aggieland
Posted on 9/29/11 at 6:25 pm to daboman of Aggieland
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Back to the original topic, I think that the size of our radio network shows that we will deliver Texas to the SEC.
Yeah, and Aggies say they have plenty of money and will pay to watch their team anywhere, anytime at any price...
unless it's against Arkansas in Dallas, but then "it's too expensive, it's too far, the stadium sucks." Which is why it's not a sellout.
You Aggies are notorious for letting your mouth overload your arse.
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Posted on 9/29/11 at 6:31 pm to Indiana Tiger
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For the record, Arkansas' final AP Ranking:
1989 13
1998 16
1999 17
2006 15
2010 12
When you say "since" any date, that means since that time, as in not including. An example:
"I've only dated 3 girls since Mary and I broke up.". Mary would not be included in that tally.
As for 2010, that's my bad. The data I was using only included up to 2009. Allow me to correct:
In fact, Arkansas has only finished ranked at all FOUR TIMES SINCE 1989!
Posted on 9/29/11 at 6:33 pm to Chicken
We do not need another Texas school. To add value to te the SEC Network, we need to find a way to get into the DC and Virginia market.
The only 2 schools worth a damn in Texas are UT, Texas A&M and I don't think UT will ever want to be part of the SEC. Every other schools in Texas have small following so they wouldn't get us any market share. Texas Tech may, but they are too far west, way out of the SEC's comfort zone.
The only 2 schools worth a damn in Texas are UT, Texas A&M and I don't think UT will ever want to be part of the SEC. Every other schools in Texas have small following so they wouldn't get us any market share. Texas Tech may, but they are too far west, way out of the SEC's comfort zone.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 8:47 am to TIGERSandFROGS
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When you say "since" any date, that means since that time, as in not including. An example:
"I've only dated 3 girls since Mary and I broke up.". Mary would not be included in that tally.
As for 2010, that's my bad. The data I was using only included up to 2009. Allow me to correct:
In fact, Arkansas has only finished ranked at all FOUR TIMES SINCE 1989!
Your argument is irrelevant. If Arkansas or any SEC team played your schedules from 1990 to present they would have multiple undefeated seasons and top 5 rankings. You're comparing Apples to Dogshit (TCU SOS every year)
Arkansas and TCU are about to start hooking up in 2013 or 2014. We can settle this on the field just like we used to when we would have more fans in your stadium and beat the every living shite out of you home or away.
TCU is a joke of a program, and always will be. Congrats on possibly getting your "New" stadium capacity up to 50k. Our shitty second stadium in LR is bigger than that.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:05 am to Hubbhogg
The SEC doesn't really need another school in Texas to secure its place in households among the major markets. But if it did, neither TCU or SMU offer anything of substance to the mix
Texas Tech is really the only other option, and I wouldn't mind them one bit. They have a relatively loyal fanbase, the overwhelming majority of their grads stay in and around the state of Texas, and they travel fairly well for being stuck on an outpost on the edge of civilization. Tubbs is there for now, which would ease the transition, and they are that sort of program that will keep things fairly competitive year in and year out.
But, along with Baylor, they've basically hitched their wagon to UT, so I doubt they are really on the table.
Texas Tech is really the only other option, and I wouldn't mind them one bit. They have a relatively loyal fanbase, the overwhelming majority of their grads stay in and around the state of Texas, and they travel fairly well for being stuck on an outpost on the edge of civilization. Tubbs is there for now, which would ease the transition, and they are that sort of program that will keep things fairly competitive year in and year out.
But, along with Baylor, they've basically hitched their wagon to UT, so I doubt they are really on the table.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:06 am to Chicken
I'd rather the SEC have another Texas school over Mizzou or WVU.
This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:17 am to bayou2003
Mizzou has kind of grown on me the last few weeks. I just want this to be over with honestly.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:21 am to TIGERSandFROGS
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When you say "since" any date, that means since that time, as in not including. An example:
"I've only dated 3 girls since Mary and I broke up.". Mary would not be included in that tally.
As for 2010, that's my bad. The data I was using only included up to 2009.
Thanks for the since definition, but what does that have to do with my post? It would help if you would only read what's there. Now that you looked it up, I'm glad that you now know it includes ALL the years since.
As an aside, it's pretty fricking stupid of you to alienate someone who has been one of the biggest and earliest TCU advocates on this board (do a search of TCU and me). So frick you.
Posted on 10/2/11 at 11:16 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
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TIGERSandFROGS
Please come tell me about your vaunted program some more after that thrilling loss to SMU at home.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 3:54 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
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We sure can, Chicken. How about TCU only being eligible in any way since 2000, and only having a guaranteed way in if they achieved a certain rank for the past 5 seasons. How about TCU having inherent recruiting disadvantages because of not being in a major conference? Not being a large state school? Not being in the SEC?
Should I go on?
How about the fact that TCU has to outperform 65 other schools to have a shot at one BCS bowl spot, while Arkansas only has to be in the top 2 or 3 of 12 schools to have a BCS shot?
The road is certainly more clear for TCU now that it's not still impossible to go
holy crap man
I liked your earlier zinger at the arky fans as being chronic underachievers but you are going full Boise retard right now
The SEC can be downright brutal - last year there were four or maybe even five teams in the SEC West who could challenge in most conferences
TCU has an excellent opportunity in front of them right now - if the Big East survives they have an easy road to a BCS title. If they stay where they are they only have to beat one real team a year in Boise and if they join the Big 12-2-1 they can try their luck against OU, Ok State, and Texas for the foreseeable future
JMO - if they join the Big 12 TCU will find it harder to make it to the BCS bowls than they have the last couple years as a midmajor
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:02 pm to Hubbhogg
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Agreed. TCU is a trendy team right now. They were abysmal in the old SWC days, and they will return to their roots eventually.
doubtful
their admin actually gives a damn about sports now.
that really wasnt the case in the waning years of the SWC.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:15 pm to Dr RC
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that really wasnt the case in the waning years of the SWC.
You mean the 1960s-1990s period
Posted on 10/3/11 at 4:30 pm to Chad504boy
I don't think you need anyone else.
A&M will pull in Aggie fans and Aggie haters. That pretty much covers all of Texas.
The other point is that the SEC is the best product out there and everyone knows it. Even without the one-way-or-another vested interest in A&M beating or getting killed by an SEC school, the state of Texas will watch it because it is the best football out there and there will be implications as to where the Sooners and texas are ranked and who they play in a bowl.
A&M will pull in Aggie fans and Aggie haters. That pretty much covers all of Texas.
The other point is that the SEC is the best product out there and everyone knows it. Even without the one-way-or-another vested interest in A&M beating or getting killed by an SEC school, the state of Texas will watch it because it is the best football out there and there will be implications as to where the Sooners and texas are ranked and who they play in a bowl.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 5:13 pm to Chicken
I already get SEC Network games in Dallas. At least, they call it the SEC Network. But I know what you mean, Chicken. Something full time along the lines of the Big10 network, something I have on my Verizon Fios system... and never watch. Just like the Longhorn Network.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 5:30 pm to Chicken
No brainer - it's not in A&M's or SEC's interest to have a second SEC team from Texas. You get enough TV eyeballs, and don't dilute TX recruiting for Aggies or SEC schools by staying with just Aggies from TX.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 5:44 pm to Chicken
I'd take TCU, but that is it.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 6:26 pm to Chad504boy
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Rice balances out Vandy.
Actually, SMU would.
But not the way you might think...
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During the first 40 years, the Board of Trust, and therefore the university, was under the control of the General Conference (the governing body) of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South. Tension grew between the university administration and the Conference over the future of the school, particularly over the methods by which members of the Vanderbilt Board of Trust would be chosen, and the extent that non-Methodists could teach at the school.[7]
Conflicts escalated after James H. Kirkland was appointed chancellor in 1893. Then the Southern Methodist Church congregations raised just $50,000 in a campaign to raise $300,000.[7]
In 1905, the Vanderbilt Board of Trust voted to limit Methodist representation on the board to just five bishops. Former faculty member and bishop Elijah Hoss led a group attempting to assert Methodist control. In 1910, the Board refused to seat three Methodist bishops. The Methodist Church took the issue to court and won at the local level. On March 21, 1914, the Tennessee Supreme Court ruled that the Commodore, and not the Methodist Church, was the university's founder and that the board could therefore seat whomever it wished. The General Conference in 1914 voted 151 to 140 to sever its ties with Vanderbilt; it also voted to establish a new university, Southern Methodist University, and to greatly expand Emory University.
Cliff notes.. Vanderbilt was the original Southern Methodist University.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 8:07 pm to BrerTiger
I don't really give a frick I just want this badass TCU fan to eat some fricking crow
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 8:09 pm
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