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re: With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:30 am to SportTiger1
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:30 am to SportTiger1
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Maybe so, but i pretty sure the entire world would agree that Saban and Meyer are masterminds at their respective positions.
No argument there.
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Posted on 10/15/16 at 11:57 am to drexyl
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If O beats Alabama i'll wager a ton of the people against him in this thread will change their mind pretty quick.
Coach O's future as the head coach at LSU is almost entirely in his own hands, how well LSU performs will decide it. The decision is not with Herman or Jimbo.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:09 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Coach O's future as the head coach at LSU is almost entirely in his own hands, how well LSU performs will decide it. The decision is not with Herman or Jimbo
I mean this sincerely, you're nuts.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:23 pm to SportTiger1
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I mean this sincerely, you're nuts.
I mean this seriously, you're clueless. Orgeron has impressed LSU's board members, but he has to continue to do so, he has to win impressively. LSU will not screw Orgeron over if he does that. You can choose to remain clueless, I don't give a flip. There are competing resumes going on at the moment, all of the coaches including coach O are competing to make their's impressive as possible. Regardless of what you heard, it's still a wait a see deal for LSU.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:24 pm to TrueTigerTale
No offense to you, but I simply dont believe that to be the case. I would imagine that there are 5-7 candidates whose agents are presently working with our AD.
If there is genuine interest expressed by our top 2-3 and we are coming close enough to terms, then whatever O might accomplish is virtually irrelevant.
O is a band-aid, a stop-gap and nothing more. I'll go so far as to say that he will never be permanently hired as our head coach. Never.
Any/all reports to the contrary are just so much hype and hopium and not to be taken seriously. Joe Aleva can't afford to drop the ball on this hire, so we're going big, all-in.
Let there be no doubt.
If there is genuine interest expressed by our top 2-3 and we are coming close enough to terms, then whatever O might accomplish is virtually irrelevant.
O is a band-aid, a stop-gap and nothing more. I'll go so far as to say that he will never be permanently hired as our head coach. Never.
Any/all reports to the contrary are just so much hype and hopium and not to be taken seriously. Joe Aleva can't afford to drop the ball on this hire, so we're going big, all-in.
Let there be no doubt.
This post was edited on 10/15/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 10/15/16 at 12:30 pm to blackmouthcur
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O is a band-aid, a stop-gap and nothing more. I'll go so far as to say that he will never be permanently hired as our head coach. Never.
In a way, you could say this is sort of like the movie Gladiator, win impressively and "win the crowds Maximus and you will win your freedom". If Coach Orgeron wins impressively, with this brutal schedule, all I can say is, don't let the door hit you in the asss on your way out coach Herman.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 1:50 pm to TrueTigerTale
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win the crowds Maximus and you will win your freedom"
If the crowds are a metaphor for the administration, then the crowds often don't know what's best for them.
All you have to do is line up credentials and see who grades out. That's all we have to do, this isn't hard. Orgeron simply doesn't make the grade for this level of job. He can go to a smaller school, build up his resume and then come back. I don't see why some are so hell bent on this underqualified coach getting the job.
Posted on 10/15/16 at 3:23 pm to Goldrush25
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He can go to a smaller school, build up his resume and then come back. I don't see why some are so hell bent on this underqualified coach getting the job.
I don't see how are ybody with a straight face can say that O would be a better hire for LSU that Herman or jimbo.
It was one thing when people wanted to give him the job if we got turned down by those two, but they've already moved him ahead of them If he does well the rest of the year.
Posted on 10/16/16 at 4:57 pm to SportTiger1
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I don't see how are ybody with a straight face can say that O would be a better hire for LSU that Herman or jimbo.
No one's stating that right now, the majority of Tiger fans like myself are willing to wait and see what Orgeron can do before making any assessment. A few of you want to dump on Orgeron so he doesn't get hired, that's just flat out wrong. Let the man coach this team.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:46 pm to Goldrush25
ESPN Insiders - "After missing out on Herman and Florida State's Jimbo Fisher, the Tigers will hire Orgeron. Many LSU insiders say this is what athletics director Joe Alleva has wanted to do since the day he fired former coach Les Miles."
"Orgeron won't be judged as much by LSU's final record as its improvement on the field. In only two games, the Tigers have shown dramatic improvement on offense. After setting a school record for total offense in an SEC game with 634 yards in a 42-7 rout of Missouri, the Tigers averaged 10.9 yards per play in a 45-10 win over Southern Miss, their highest in a game since at least 1960. That's called progress."
"If the Tigers can keep defensive coordinator Dave Aranda and bring in a high-profile offensive coordinator, Orgeron might be in line to get the job. He's a Louisiana native and a relentless recruiter who is well liked by high school coaches in the state."
Obviously ESPN must be getting inside info from someone on TD.
TrueTigerTale - With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.
"Orgeron won't be judged as much by LSU's final record as its improvement on the field. In only two games, the Tigers have shown dramatic improvement on offense. After setting a school record for total offense in an SEC game with 634 yards in a 42-7 rout of Missouri, the Tigers averaged 10.9 yards per play in a 45-10 win over Southern Miss, their highest in a game since at least 1960. That's called progress."
"If the Tigers can keep defensive coordinator Dave Aranda and bring in a high-profile offensive coordinator, Orgeron might be in line to get the job. He's a Louisiana native and a relentless recruiter who is well liked by high school coaches in the state."
Obviously ESPN must be getting inside info from someone on TD.
TrueTigerTale - With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:58 pm to TrueTigerTale
alright, y'all give me a rundown of "home run" OC's.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:03 pm to higgins
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alright, y'all give me a rundown of "home run" OC's.
Just bring in Mark Helfrich from Oregon. Give the Oregon offense real talent and it would explode.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 1:26 pm to GenesChin
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Just bring in Mark Helfrich from Oregon. Give the Oregon offense real talent and it would explode
I like that idea
Posted on 10/19/16 at 2:38 pm to TrueTigerTale
I just pictured Tom Herman calling Alleva and Alleva telling him to hold on and wait to see how Coach O does. Yeah.. not happening. 
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:52 pm to TrueTigerTale
looks like he already has his OC. Hard to argue against Ensminger. Looks like a very potent combo of Coach O, Ensminger, and Aranda. Then keep Damiyune Craig and the rest of the staff as well. Even Peveto looks better now that Miles is gone. No more aiming for the out of bounds on kickoffs.,
Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:27 pm to TrueTigerTale
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I mean this seriously, you're clueless. Orgeron has impressed LSU's board members,
With a team he didn't even build.
We have seen teams he has built..... close your eyes Francis it aint pretty.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:43 pm to boweswi05
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With a team he didn't even build.
what does that even mean and why is that a knock against him? I think it makes it even more impressive that he is doing it on such short notice with players that he didn't even recruit.
or you could say that he "built" this team into a "team" in just a couple of short weeks. That makes it even more amazing still. Just think what he could do if he had more time to "build" a team.
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close your eyes Francis it aint pretty.
open your eyes bowwowsi5, it really is pretty, PRETTY Amazing that is!
Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:49 pm to boxcar willie
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what does that even mean and why is that a knock against him? I think it makes it even more impressive that he is doing it on such short notice with players that he didn't even recruit. or you could say that he "built" this team into a "team" in just a couple of short weeks. That makes it even more amazing still. Just think what he could do if he had more time to "build" a team.
If I have to tell you what that means then no point explaining it to you.
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open your eyes bowwowsi5, it really is pretty, PRETTY Amazing that is!
What is? I know you aren't going the coaching resume route.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:03 pm to boweswi05
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With a team he didn't even build.
He did build this team, he's using players that were underused thus building up their play-making abilities, he's building up this LSU team's chemistry. Why are you such a doofus? This is all very good for LSU!
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:05 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Why are you such a doofus?
Why? Because i'm not slobbing CEO knob and wanting him to be the HC.
I say we hire Derek Mason
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