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re: Why would any coach go from the nfl to ncaa?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:27 pm to Kingpenm3
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:27 pm to Kingpenm3
College kids are coachable because they wanna get paid. NFL players already got paid and don't give a shite what their coaches tell them. It gets old for a control freak.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:37 pm to Kingpenm3
I can think of a few reasons. Don't have to deal with pro athletes, some of whom make more than the coach. Don't have to deal with salary cap issues that limit what you can do roster wise. Instead of dealing with possible limits of draft position, you can just go out and recruit the guys you want. And big college programs now pay close to or on par with NFL gigs.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:39 pm to Kingpenm3
Chip Kelly is doing pretty dang good... Ask Jerry Jones...
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:40 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Saban absolutely sucked? He went .500 with one of the worst rosters in the league.
If he would have signed Drew Brees, he may still be in Miami.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:42 pm to Kingpenm3
Somebody with a better memory than me may can answer but I can never remember a great or even good NFL coach jumping from the NFL to college. No offense to Saban, don't think he gave the NFL long enough to see if he really could be successful. Pretty good his first year and average his second year so I just don't remember a good NFL coach going to coach in college.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:10 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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College coach controls his roster, NFL coach does not. That's one reason.
Also, CONTROL, it is harder to control some of theses multimillion $s prima-donnas than the college players
Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:30 pm to Kingpenm3
quote:might be a tad harsh, but I don't think there's any doubt he saw the ship was sinking so he jumped off while he could
Absolutely sucked
To answer the OP:
-money. High end college jobs are willing to pay as much or more than the NFL
-temperment. Harbaugh, like saban, has a very taxing personality. It's hard to deal with over long stretches. But in college, everyone stays for max 5 years, and new kids come in, by the time they're sick to death of harbaugh, they're moving on the the league.
-competitive advantage. In college, you recruit your players, good teams get better recruits. In the NFL, the better you are, you lose free agents, worse draft picks,limited in free agency. Everything is about keeping things equal. In college, you can dominate and overwhelm other programs bc the system is setup for success. In the NFL, you play 16 games, 13 are pretty close where you gotta bring it. In college, you play 12 games and 2 are big in the B10, 4 are big in the SECw. There's just less games to lose, making keeping your job easier when you are a big time coach, like jimbo (Harbaugh) is.
I don't harbaugh is coming back to college, but these are potential reasons.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:42 pm to spacewrangler
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Made the playoffs his first year, not great his second but he didn't absolutely suck.
He didn't make the playoffs and he wasn't good the 2nd year as the Dolphins should of contended for the playoffs, but didn't come close.
Having said that, he didn't suck, and didn't stay long enough for him to truly be evaluated as an NFL coach.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:48 pm to Kingpenm3
Money, prestige, beer in the clubhouse fridge.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:01 am to LSU Shreddin
Nick Saban- the 33rd best coach in the country!
Posted on 12/5/14 at 12:07 am to Kingpenm3
Because as hard as CFB coachs work, NFL coaches work even harder. In college, you at least have periods of downtime here and there throughout the year. As an NFL coach, the job literally consumes your life.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:38 am to Kingpenm3
College football isn't nearly as competitive as the NFL is. It truly is the best of the best up there and rarely do you get a cupcake game where you can win by 30 just based off of talent. The big college football schools get at least 3 of those games a year. There is no such thing as a cupcake game in the NFL. You have to be on top of your game each and every week. The margin for error in the NFL is so small compared to college football.
Plus, you have the whole draft vs recruiting deal. If you can recruit, you can go get the top players across the entire country and put them on your team. You can turn a school around in just 1 or 2 seasons. In the NFL, you gotta draft the talent, work the salary cap, free agency, waivers, etc. to get just some decent players. It's a completely different ball game.
And the salary is pretty similar. Average NFL head coach salary is like $4.5m. Average SEC head coach salary is like $3.8m. And if you are just a decent coach, you will have better job security in college than in the NFL. Some coaches get 1 year in the NFL then get fired. Some get 2. Most college coaches finish up their 1st contract at least.
And the corporate structure is in favor of college football. Most college football coaches are their own boss and don't really have to include anyone else other than the assistant coaches and maybe the AD from time to time. In the NFL you have GMs and Owners all up in your shite, some more controlling than others. But I would rather have to deal with a college AD than a greedy / power hungry owner and GM.
It all comes down to personal preference though. Some coaches are college coaches, others are NFL coaches. And if you think about it, it's rare to have a coach be really successful as both a college and NFL coach for some reason. There are some, Pete Carroll comes to mind (so does Harbaugh and he's been great in the NFL and still about to get fired because the team / front owners hate him), but for the most part you are either an NFL guy or NCAA guy.
Plus, you have the whole draft vs recruiting deal. If you can recruit, you can go get the top players across the entire country and put them on your team. You can turn a school around in just 1 or 2 seasons. In the NFL, you gotta draft the talent, work the salary cap, free agency, waivers, etc. to get just some decent players. It's a completely different ball game.
And the salary is pretty similar. Average NFL head coach salary is like $4.5m. Average SEC head coach salary is like $3.8m. And if you are just a decent coach, you will have better job security in college than in the NFL. Some coaches get 1 year in the NFL then get fired. Some get 2. Most college coaches finish up their 1st contract at least.
And the corporate structure is in favor of college football. Most college football coaches are their own boss and don't really have to include anyone else other than the assistant coaches and maybe the AD from time to time. In the NFL you have GMs and Owners all up in your shite, some more controlling than others. But I would rather have to deal with a college AD than a greedy / power hungry owner and GM.
It all comes down to personal preference though. Some coaches are college coaches, others are NFL coaches. And if you think about it, it's rare to have a coach be really successful as both a college and NFL coach for some reason. There are some, Pete Carroll comes to mind (so does Harbaugh and he's been great in the NFL and still about to get fired because the team / front owners hate him), but for the most part you are either an NFL guy or NCAA guy.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 2:55 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:21 am to KG5989
They go back to NCAA mainly cuz they fail at NFL. Saban the poster boy.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:57 am to Kingpenm3
Because the nfl sux a bag of bbc.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:06 am to Kingpenm3
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Can yall name some examples of the NFL to ncaa move.
Off the top of my head, other than Saban, the only two I know of that left an NFL head coaching job of their own accord to immediately coach in the NCAA were Al Groh (from the Jets to Virginia, his alma mater) and Bobby Petrino (Falcons to Arkansas)...
Other coaches that I can think of that coached in the NCAA after leaving the NFL (not necessarily of their own volition):
Lou Holtz
Steve Spurrier
Jim Mora, Jr.
Dave Wannstedt
Pete Carroll
Lane Kiffin
June Jones
Jerry Glanville
I'm sure there are others, but those are the only ones that come to mind at present...
ETA: Wow...as a Falcons fan I just now noticed how many of the above were head coaches at Atlanta (Glanville, Jones, Mora Jr, Petrino)...looks like a lot of their past head coaches seem to have been better suited for the college game...
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 8:24 am
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:13 am to Kingpenm3
When I hear college coaches talk about some of the non-football parts, one of the common themes is making a difference in the lives of their players. Listen to them speak of loving their team, their players, and the staff - like it's a family. The NFL is a business. It's just different.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:36 am to KG5989
good points.
Another huge deal is that the NFL coaches have a pretty sweet pension deal. Or they did. I know it's changed regarding assistant coaches.
The main reason Spurrier went back to college was so he could have more free time.
Another huge deal is that the NFL coaches have a pretty sweet pension deal. Or they did. I know it's changed regarding assistant coaches.
The main reason Spurrier went back to college was so he could have more free time.
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