re: Why O is the right guy for this program.

We'll see. What about Nutt?

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IF true, And then a year from now they will both be HC's somewhere and we'll have to trust O to find an elite OC and DC that a) werent already here and b)aren't his best buddy.

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And if O isn't here it will be different somehow. The new guy will be able to keep Aranda from becoming a head coach?

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Why don't y'all ask the players if O is the right guy?

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mike archer agrees, who needs steve spurrier

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Any O fans going to tackle my post above re: recruiting?

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O completely bombed. Like, there was very little good that could be taken from his time at Ole Miss. People talk about how great of a recruiter he is/was, but here are his classes rank compared to Nutt and Freeze...

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But, that adjustment also seems to be having recruiting implications, as Louisiana’s top-ranked prospect, four-star receiver Devonta Smith, had some great things to say about the new-look Tigers. LSU receiver coach Dameyune Craig told Smith to stay with it after Les Miles was fired, promising some major offensive changes. Those promises have been met, and that appears to mean a lot to the talented receiver.


“They’re throwing the ball more,” Smith said. “I want to see them continue to do that. He (Craig) just told me that now that the coach (Les Miles) was fired to watch the things that are going on. I have watched and he’s stuck to his word about the offense opening up.”

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The five-star defensive tackle remains a top priority for LSU, but they have their work cut out for them. Wilson's mother is said to prefer him staying home and playing for Texas, but she is also a big fan of Ed Orgeron, so LSU's decision may help in deciding where Wilson ultimately ends up, according to a source. The Tigers view Wilson as a guy that could contribute immediately at every position on the defensive line, which intrigues Wilson.

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The two had met during a high school football game when Carroll was still only a candidate for the head coach position, and connected over their shared passion for recruiting.[9] During the Carroll years, USC enjoyed much success, including two (Associated Press) National Championships. Orgeron took on the added responsibility of Recruiting Coordinator in 2001, and was named assistant head coach in 2003.[5] Orgeron won National Recruiter of the Year honors in 2004

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the problem is what happens when O isn't surrounded by a great DC or OC?

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Oh, sorry I didn't realize it was an established fact that Coach O wasn't going to be surrounded by a great DC. Is Steve Ensminger considered a great OC? If not, I don't know if O will need a GREAT one. Broke three offensive school records in three games.

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in that case, I would want a coach that could actually step in and actually coach

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Why? Wouldn't be easier to call somebody and say "hey, the guy we were paying over a million bucks just left. you want a shot?"

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Obviously not, but If we hire an elite specialist to be HC(like Herman or Jimbo), the impacts of losing the coordinator on his side of the ball are diminished greatly.

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Coach O just promoted Steve Ensminger from tight ends coach to offensive coordinator. That TE coach turned OC just set three offensive records in three games.

Is the OC the only guy on the team that knows anything about offense?

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Wouldnt you agree it's easier to hire one elite coordinators than it is to hire/keep two?

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If it comes down to it I would rather just have an elite coordinator. If he leaves and the HC has to become the OC then one of his jobs will lack.

Just how common is it for a HC to have to be a DC or OC because one of them left or was fired? I don't remember Miles ever having to step in for a coordinator. Don't remember Nick wearing two hats in a game because a DC left. Maybe it's a lot more common than I am aware of, but I don't remember ever hearing that before.

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PS- I like how you referenced Aranda instead of Kiffin, because you know our potential HCs are Offensive guys. Not fooling me you bastard

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I will have to go see what you are talking about. I'll be honest though, it's probably because I think less of Lame Kiffin than I do Herman. At least Herman is just unproven and doesn't go around making ridiculous tweets taunting former employers like he is still in junior high.

I don't want Lame anywhere near LSU. That dude is a violation waiting to happen once he is away from Saban and his dictatorship.

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PS- I like how you referenced Aranda instead of Kiffin, because you know our potential HCs are Offensive guys. Not fooling me you bastard.

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Two reasons, one as stated above, I just don't have any desire for him ever being at LSU.

And two, Aranda coaches at LSU while Kiffin doesn't. Why should I answer a question about a hypothetical situation that may or may not ever happen and depends heavily upon another hypothetical situation that also will probably not happen.

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yet here you are in favor of O?

you realize O was tied to the hip with all of Kiffin's recruiting shadiness, right?

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All of the articles I have dug up about Kiffin's time at Tennessee and his multiple violations only mention him and the stupid shite he said and did. No mention of CEO that I remember.

The stuff with the USC players was blamed on boosters and Pete Carroll. Again, I don't remember CEO's name being mentioned and I didn't even realize that he coached there during that time, while the media was reporting it. And I was one that thoroughly enjoyed anything that was pinned on USC.

The fact y'all want a failure as your coach is hilarious to me.