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re: Why O is the right guy for this program.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:35 am to Grits N Gravy
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:35 am to Grits N Gravy
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LSU fans think all the best coaches in the world are going to come begging for the job. That's not the case. Jimbo isn't guaranteed to come here. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Harbuagh....they aren't coming. There's not many fantastic head coaches out there that will realistically get hired and come to LSU.
There are plenty of realistic options that have proven to be better HCs than O.
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:35 am to Lou the Jew from LSU
Great! He can take a job at another program and let his reign of success shine for all to see ! We can then beg with hat in hand for him to return as the prodigal son!
I'm willing to go that route. Your list convinced me that he will soon be among the greats.
How he has not gotten this chance already is a bit surprising listening to some of you ...why is that? Why hasn't he gotten his chance?
This interim thing doesn't seem to be enough for some reason.
I'm willing to go that route. Your list convinced me that he will soon be among the greats.
How he has not gotten this chance already is a bit surprising listening to some of you ...why is that? Why hasn't he gotten his chance?
This interim thing doesn't seem to be enough for some reason.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:35 am to Salmon
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most people are willing to hire Fisher or Herman based off their entire "portfolio"
What is Herman's entire portfolio? He has been a head coach for 1 1/2 years. The most recent chapter of that portfolio has been a horror story.
If you are going to give Herman credit for what Urban Meyer has done then Coach O's entire portfolio makes Herman's look like a guy still in grade school.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:37 am to prplngldtigr
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Your list convinced me that he will soon be among the greats.
as far as HCs go...I can't think of a single one that failed as miserably as O, then later on proved to be great
can anyone help me out? and I'm talking about college, so don't throw Belicheck at me
college and NFL coaching is completely different
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:37 am to Tiger Ree
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Losing to Navy, getting stomped by SMU and barely getting past Tulsa with a #6 ranked team in his second year scares me.
Ranks are only accurate towards the end of the year, when it's early in the season it's based on resume and potential. Nobody honestly thought there were only 5 teams in the entire country better than them. Not sure why 2 losses disqualify Herman but 27 are ignored for Coach O. Any candidate we're looking for is going to have bad losses here and there.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:38 am to Tiger Ree
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The most recent chapter of that portfolio has been a horror story.
better than O
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If you are going to give Herman credit for what Urban Meyer has done then Coach O's entire portfolio makes Herman's look like a guy still in grade school.
O was a coordinator for a championship team?
I didn't realize that
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:38 am to Grits N Gravy
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while interim head coach, he has all head coaching duties. He's 9-2. Yes, that is better than his record at ole mIss
You are insane if you think the job of interim head coach correlates to running a program as permanent head coach.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:39 am to Grits N Gravy
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You can't argue he's not a better coach now than he was at Ole Miss.
Well, he hasn't been a HC since his stint at Ole Miss. Interim HC is not the same. There is so much more to managing a program year round. His stint at Ole Miss was a complete failure. It's hard to imagine setting the Ole Miss program back, but he managed to do that. I wonder why he didn't pursue or offered another HC gig at a smaller school.
And let's talk recruiting. He is known as a great recruiter, but has also been called a dirty recruiter over the years. From his time at Miami to the crap he and Kiffin was accused of pulling at Tennessee and USC. Some say if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
With that said, I like what he has done so far with this team. People mature and learn from their mistakes. I'm just not convinced yet that a second chance should come as LSU's HC.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:39 am to Slippy
Looking forward to getting past these types of threads when our new head coach is fired. Quite amusing the same folks who disliked Miles want to hire Coach O. It shows how emotions drive fans opinions.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:40 am to Salmon
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There are plenty of realistic options that have proven to be better HCs than O
Can you name them? And some of their fantastic head coaching credentials?
I really only see one coach with a NC that we have a might shot at and that's Jimbo.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:41 am to Grits N Gravy
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O will be fine has a head coach. You can't argue he's not a better coach now than he was at Ole Miss.
It's funny because that is exactly what they are trying to argue. While at the same time singing the virtues of a guy who in his second year on the job and has looked pitiful the last month.
The Herman crew aren't a "what have you done lately" crowd. They are a "what did Urban Meyer do in the past while you worked for him" and "what did you do over 10 years ago at Ole Miss" crowd.
The last three weeks don't exist in their minds.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:41 am to Grits N Gravy
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I really only see one coach with a NC that we have a might shot at and that's Jimbo.
is winning a championship the only qualifier for "fantastic"?
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:43 am to Slippy
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As bad as Miles was
Right
Wins almost 80%, two NCGs, a NC, but he was bad at LSU.
What LSU needs is a guy who was only able to win 40% at his only real head coaching job. And why? Because we have gone 3-0 against some of the worst teams in the nation.
Stupid runs deep on this board.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:43 am to Grits N Gravy
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Yea, I would like to see that too but we don't have that luxury. LSU fans think all the best coaches in the world are going to come begging for the job. That's not the case. Jimbo isn't guaranteed to come here. Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Harbuagh....they aren't coming. There's not many fantastic head coaches out there that will realistically get hired and come to LSU.
Fine.
But as far as I'm concerned, you tap THAT market first before you elevate your former D Line coach who's only success as a HC has been in interim gigs into the driver's seat permanently.
I'm not gonna burn the place down if we end up hiring O, but let's be honest...when people were bitching about Miles over the last few seasons, would anyone have been happy had we plucked O out of the air and dropped him into the slot? Nah... People complaining about Miles, and in many regards rightfully so, wanted an articulate leader who was an x's and o's guy who would be what we lost in Saban. Now, we're content with O because he's strung together a few wins and looked exponentially better than Miles, which...as we ought not forget, everyone said ANYONE could do, right?
If ANYONE could have improved on what Miles was doing, what makes O special then? If he's not special and his lone qualification is he's not Les, then what does that say for our search process, because EVERYONE on the planet not names Les Miles is not Les Miles.
Again...if we tap O, I'm on board. Not because I'd agree, but because he'd be LSU's coach, and I'm loyal...and unlike many of the fricking malcontents in this place, you'd never once hear me say I told you so if it failed...because I want nothing more than for LSU to succeed and because only assholes do that.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:43 am to Tiger Ree
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The last three weeks don't exist in their minds.
this is retarded
of course they exist
doesn't mean one has to be a reactionary idiot and completely dismiss him because of the last 3 weeks
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:44 am to ChenierauTigre
Some of you have great comments, but consider one thing. No matter what coach we get who knows what kind of future they are going to have. Honestly speaking we just have to have faith in our program leaders and faith in whatever coach is given the title next season. Whether it be O, Herman, Jimbo, etc.
But those are my top three in that order if O wins out.
But those are my top three in that order if O wins out.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:44 am to Slippy
why don't you all stop posting this crap until after the season?
Just sit back and see what happens.
You sound like little girls that are giddy over the smallest emotional connections. Chill out. Stop letting emotions make decisions for you.
Just sit back and see what happens.
You sound like little girls that are giddy over the smallest emotional connections. Chill out. Stop letting emotions make decisions for you.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 8:48 am
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:45 am to Slippy
Should we bother with the rest of the games or just give the Cajun DL coach the HC job now? Is there another school threatening to steal him away as it's HC?
You "O people" are as emotional as school girls. Jesus, it's just three games - and ALL at home no less.
You "O people" are as emotional as school girls. Jesus, it's just three games - and ALL at home no less.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:46 am to emanresu
he admitted his mistakes at ole miss.
that was about ten years ago.
time to move on
that was about ten years ago.
time to move on
Posted on 10/28/16 at 8:48 am to Salmon
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what about 10 years ago?
The same, or five or three. Anybody in any profession is normally judged by their latest work. A horrible employee can become a great employee. It's been done many, many times. Most employee reviews aren't based on what happened 10 years ago.
Ah, Peter Gibbins, you have turned out to be the one of the best employees this company has ever had. But, I'm going have to reduce your pay because of that TPS report incident 10 years ago.
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