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Why did Every College & Pro Team Pass on Tenuta This Year?

Posted on 12/14/08 at 8:37 pm
Posted by SugarBeauxl
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 8:37 pm
I find it strange that he did not end up as a DC anywhere with many openings this season in college and the pro's. I like the guy for our DC along with Walker, Chavis, and Edwards, but have a concern that so many teams shy away from him. What's wrong with him and is he a risk for us?
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 8:44 pm to
he's one of the biggest assholes in the universe
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 8:54 pm to
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Why did Every College & Pro Team Pass on Tenuta This Year?
he's one of the biggest a-holes in the universe


He doesn't recruit either
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:03 pm to
True. But you've gotta figure football coaching as a career is filled with type A, ultra competitive assholes and if he even gets on THEIR nerves...dude's prickishness must be cosmic
Posted by ZeeDustin
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:07 pm to
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he's one of the biggest assholes in the universe


Meyer, Bear, Saban are not great peeps. We need a badass a-hole. Les' good natured loyalty will only go so far.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:14 pm to
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ZeeDustin
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:17 pm to
The question is he the best guy to lead our defense or is Walker, Chavis, or Edwards?
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:21 pm to
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We need a badass a-hole.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:32 pm to
That might tell you something....
Posted by HueyP
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 9:34 pm to
Still lots of positions to fill this year. A bit early to say this! Hell he might even be coming to LSU for all we know.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/14/08 at 10:57 pm to
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Still lots of positions to fill this year. A bit early to say this! Hell he might even be coming to LSU for all we know.


Don't think hes in the mix..........
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 6:55 am to
Because Les put out word that he wanted him. And what Les wants, Les gets.

Les Miles is Chuck Norris' bodyguard.
Posted by lsutiger4life
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 7:03 am to
pass this year? tenuta? isnt he dc at notre lame???
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 7:27 am to
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pass this year? tenuta? isnt he dc at notre lame???


I think he's LB coach and Asst. Coach.

People are just looking for a reason to pass on Tenuta even though he's a stud DC.

If you look hard enough, there's a reason to pass on every candidate. Tenuta is my personal choice. I'm hoping it's Les' choice as well.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 7:55 am to
IMO Les knows who will be the next DC &
will announce it after the Bowl game.

Posted by CTexTiger
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 8:39 am to
But it seems like Tenuta isn't just an arse on the Football field and in the locker room.

He seems like the kind of guy who would get pissed and throw things/verbally abuse someone at the teams Christmas party or family day or something. He doesn't seem like he can ever turn it off. I'm all about having a hard arse in there, just one who can turn it off in the proper setting. I'm not sure Tenuta can do this.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 8:40 am
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:40 pm to
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pass this year? tenuta? isnt he dc at notre lame???
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Negative, he is the LB coach at ND. He did not get a coordinator job anywhere and there were dozens of them.


Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 1:44 pm to
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Negative, he is the LB coach at ND. He did not get a coordinator job anywhere and there were dozens of them.


Maybe he thought he had one, and turned the others down? There are too many rumors to know for sure.
Posted by GoldenTornado
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:36 pm to
I'm surprised no GT fans have addressed this!

First there's a scheme problem, on which more later. Second, being an a-hole can be good or bad, and in Tenuta's case, there's more bad than good.

At Tech he ruined team unity with an "offense vs. defense" mentality. A star player told me he and Nix hated each other, and he was openly contemptuous of Nix before the 2007 GT-Miami game. He reportedly had the same effect on the UNC staff.

His schemes are too all-or-nothing. His all-out blitzing and soft zone coverages tend to get abused by experienced QB's under good OC's.

GT's D returned only 4 starters this year, had a lot of injury problems and only started 2 true freshman DB's in the last half of the season.
But the D improved overall -- the run D was slightly worse but the pass D was a LOT better.

This year GT gave up somewhat fewer total yards, yards per play, and points than under Tenuta. All of this was accounted for by giving up about 40% fewer big plays.

Tenuta's all-or-nothing schemes seem best suited to teams that can't score. He probably allowed Gailey to win more overall games at the expense of more blowout losses. We would win games against good teams with "LSU-Auburn" scores like 7-3, 10-9, 14-10 etc.; but then lose 51-7, 39-3 etc. when Tenuta got burned.

For a team with a good offense, it makes less sense to me -- and apparently to Paul Johnson.

Finally, Tenuta does not generate all that many turnovers. This year under Wommack, GT has more takeaways in 12 games than Tenuta ever had in 13-14 games.

This doesn't appear to be luck -- in 6 seasons as a DC Wommack has generated 29+ takeaways four times, while Tenuta's best effort out of seven seasons was 27.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 4:41 pm
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