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When does Kirby get his hc gig?

Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:20 am
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:20 am
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Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:23 am to
I would think after this season he's gone, honestly.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:27 am to
Why the tears? Nick ain't going anywhere.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:40 am to
I'm wondering if he goes straight for the HC gig, or if he goes the Muschamp route and proves himself as a lone DC first. It'll be interesting to see. I would think this year would be a great year for him to get an SEC HC gig:

Kentucky
Auburn
Arkansas
Tennessee

You also have to wonder about Gary Pinkel at Mizzou. I don't think he's going any where this year, but he's gonna finish 5-7 this season, his first losing season since 2004. If he doesn't have a winning record next year, he's going to be on the hot seat big time.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:56 am to
Dave Hart likes Kirby Smart, but Tennessee would have to miss out on a lot of guys to end up with him.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:58 am to
i hope UT is done trying to be JV bama. time to move on from the saban coaching tree.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 8:59 am to
People whose opinions I trust are confident that Kirby Smart is ready. But you're right. This fan base couldn't handle a hire like this right now.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 9:27 am to
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This fan base couldn't handle a hire like this right now.

The problem is that you need to hire a coach and give him 5 years to build your program into what he wants. It is in shambles. Kiffin did horrible damage that Dooley attempted to fix. He lost the team eventually and you have no choice but to let him go.

Your new hire might take another 2 years to turn this program into his own. Then, you need to give him another 2-3 years to see if he can win with his style.

The Tennessee fan base might be able to handle a hire like Kirby Smart. But, he might be the best you can do. Throwing out $5 million doesn't guarantee a coach worth that money. Some times your options are limited, especially when you have 4 SEC teams looking for a head coach and several NFL teams.

For example, neither Nick Saban or Les Miles were the best coaches available when LSU hired them. But, they were the best we could get at the time for the money we were willing to pay.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:16 am to
Tennessee needs to hire a competent coach and we should see results quickly. It's not hard to improve on a train wreck.
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:49 am to
Whoever gets this guy will be sorry. Another clipboard/sabanjock holder who signals in plays. He has no chance of competing with the big boys. Didn't Nicky fire him once back in the day.........
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:49 am to
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Tennessee needs to hire a competent coach and we should see results quickly. It's not hard to improve on a train wreck.

quote:

Austin Peay - W
Western Kentucky - W
at Oregon - L
at Florida - L
South Alabama - W
Georgia - L
Open Date
South Carolina - L
at Alabama - L
at Missouri - W
Auburn - Toss up
Open Date
Vanderbilt - Toss up
at Kentucky - W

I think 7-5 at best. Anything better than that is unrealistic. You have a brutal schedule next year with 3 games against potential top 5 teams on the road, and 2 top 10 teams in Georgia and South Carolina at home. I don't care who your coach is. You aren't winning those games. And, Auburn and Vandy are going to be tough also.

It's time to be realistic and give yourself 3 years to see any significant improvement.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:26 am to
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at Missouri - W


I wouldn't give them this one, they lost to Mizzou in Knoxville this year. Didn't they buy out of that Oregon game though? Or at least trying to?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:40 pm to
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neither Nick Saban or Les Miles were the best coaches available when LSU hired them. But, they were the best we could get at the time for the money we were willing to pay.



this is such a bullshite statement and you are completely wrong
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:01 pm to
I think Maryland, now that they are literally starting a new era in the Big Ten, should start by offering Smart their HC gig. PSU is on probation, VT is down, go out and recruit and try and create a Maryland footprint based on DC, Baltimore, NoVa, and southern PA. There should be enough talent there to make a good program.
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
33915 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:34 pm to
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this is such a bullshite statement and you are completely wrong

34-24-1 Nick Saban at MSU
28-21 Les Miles at OSU

Neither were great prior to LSU. And there were names thrown around with better resumes than each when they were hired. Both hires were decent, meh hires that have turned out great.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:51 pm to
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I don't think he's going any where this year, but he's gonna finish 5-7 this season, his first losing season since 2004. If he doesn't have a winning record next year, he's going to be on the hot seat big time.




They would've been down this year anyway. They also don't really have the personnel along the lines to play week in/out in the SEC yet.
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