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What's with the obsession with Cory Raymond? I don't get it.

Posted on 1/14/24 at 6:24 am
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6715 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 6:24 am
If Cory Raymond is so great, why hasn't another school hired him already? If he's so great, why did Florida also fire him?

This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 7:21 am
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
683 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 6:39 am to
Very telling that he’s not been announced… tells me either Baker wanted to be involved or more likely he isn’t a candidate. Or maybe they’re sandbagging the announcement
Posted by pkf4lsu
League City, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
4193 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:05 am to
Sandbagging announcement. He was never truly happy at Florida and it showed with the production of their CB’s.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10945 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:09 am to
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I don't get it.


Why not?

Haven't you seen the stars that he recruited and coached?
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6715 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:24 am to
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Why not?

Haven't you seen the stars that he recruited and coached?
4-5 years ago, I considered him a good coach, but I think people are clinging to that past reputation. Again, what has he done lately, in the past three years?
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 7:25 am
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10528 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:34 am to
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what has he done lately, in the past three years?

Get absolutely torched. People like Moscona will parrot how elite he is and how those bad secondaries weren't his fault. The numbers say otherwise and we can do better.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278245 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:47 am to
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Again, what has he done lately, in the past three years?



How many nfl players has bo Davis put in until league the last 3 years?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278245 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:57 am to
What did utsa fire Frank Wilson? Does that mean he can’t recruit LA?

Why didn’t Kelly retain Blake baker when hired? Does that disqualify him as a good coach?
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6715 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:59 am to
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How many nfl players has bo Davis put in until league the last 3 years?
Nice non-answer
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6936 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:59 am to
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He was never truly happy at Florida and it showed with the production of their CB’s.


And here it is! CR is not happy and therefore doesn't perform well at his job. But, he surely cashed those checks when he was at Florida.

This is NOT our guy...
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6715 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:00 am to
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Why didn’t Kelly retain Blake baker when hired? Does that disqualify him as a good coach?
I don't think Missouri just fired Blake Baker; actually it was the opposite
Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2015
1208 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:01 am to
He has nfl jobs on the table he’s trying to see what lsu is going to do
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3108 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:02 am to
He benefited from Ron Cooper wave of DBU just like Les Miles benefited from Nick Saban. DBU was already established when he got here so like a previous poster says if he was so good he would have a job by now.
Posted by Roll on Tigers
Across the Border
Member since Jul 2013
3996 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:31 am to
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What did utsa fire Frank Wilson? Does that mean he can’t recruit LA? Why didn’t Kelly retain Blake baker when hired? Does that disqualify him as a good coach?
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Lester always coming in with idiotic takes
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278245 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:38 am to
Nice non answer
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14145 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:50 am to
Raymond got lazy and entitled. That’s a bad combination for any job not just football
Posted by LSU-DUDE
USA
Member since Apr 2013
2071 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 8:55 am to
People get on here and just say any then we hire Corey and magical you will say he's the best db coach
Posted by IsraelJones
Member since Dec 2023
132 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:10 am to
I think much of the Raymond talk is based on the obvious emphasis on Louisiana with the other defensive hires: Bo played at LSU, Baker played at Tulane and coached at LSU and LaTech and the DE coached at Tulane.
I would’ve expected Raymond to have signed on with someone by now, if not LSU, another in-state school even a ULM or Nicholls. Pretty clear he believes he’s going to get another SEC gig?
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4162 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:32 am to
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Sandbagging announcement. He was never truly happy at Florida and it showed with the production of their CB’s.


Not a coach I’d like to have on the staff then. He wasn’t happy so he didn’t do his job. Deserved to be fired.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4407 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:51 am to
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If Cory Raymond is so great, why hasn't another school hired him already?


Maybe you should read any of the other 100 threads parroting the same dumb question. If you did, you'd know that Raymond apparently has been offered other jobs. By all accounts, he wants to be at LSU. There are few DB coaches in the country with his resume. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think many teams wouldn't love to have him.
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If he's so great, why did Florida also fire him?

This is the beauty of the rant. We love to shite on Napier for being a bad coach but somehow we trust his judgment on Raymond. Maybe Raymond was unhappy with the downward slide in Gainsville and was butting heads b/c of it. Maybe Raymond wanted out and they fired him so they could pursue his replacement. Maybe Raymond was the scapegoat b/c they also fired their DC. The truth is, none of us know the real answer.

But here's a thought... From 2022 to 2023, Florida's record got worse. Napier is an offensive coach; his offense got worse. The defense improved from 2022 to 2023. After 2022, they gave Corey Raymond more responsibly as he went from coaching only CBs to all DBs in 2023. The passing defense and total defense got better and Napier still scapegoated the defense. So maybe just maybe, CR is a good coach and we should trust the opinion of BK over Napier. If BK hired Raymond, I think it would be a great hire. If he hires someone just as good or better, I'll still be happy. But please for the love of God, stop making dumb threads.
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