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Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:18 am to ApexTiger
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Bo Pelini gave up 62 to Oklahoma this year..
In his first year as a head coach. Walker returned to run the same D he had been running the year before.
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Does that make him a failure as a coach?
Nope, never called anyone a failure. Just saying that an overrated WAC team put 59 points points on UCLA. I looked at the stats after your response. One INT. Don't know where that put the football at that particular time. Three other turnovers. Once again...don't know where BYU recovered the ball, but best case scenario...28 points.
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Scores don't always tell the full story.
You can blow sunshine all over 59-0, but it won't make that sweet combo of stellar offense and stingy D smell any better than 59-0.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:26 am to ApexTiger
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Walker is an excellent coach
He is an excellent position coach. I just don't know if that excellence has translated to his spot as coordinator. If you told me he would come and coach our DB's I'd throw a party. Just concerned that he doesn't scheme well against the spread/high-powered offenses.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:16 am to guttata
If you actually watched UCLA's games, their D wasn't coached up all that well. They didn't have near the problems that LSU's has had, but there were definite fundamental issues with assignments, alignment, scheme, and decision making on calls. Some folks rave about DW because he's not the Dumb & Dumber act we have now, but he has yet to prove himself as a good DC. Check the film. There are *much* better canidates available ( Rhoades, Chavis ).
Posted on 12/17/08 at 1:17 pm to Hideo Nomo
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What's so good about Dwayne Walker?
Bear with me here. I realize he's a pretty popular candidate, stemming back from last offseason. Looking at his stats this season, his defense was ranked pretty poorly in Scoring Defense and Total YPG. I'm not incredibly familiar with UCLA football, so could there be some explanation for the regression of the defense from 2007 -> 2008 that still allows for Dwayne Walker to be considered a top flight defensive coordinator?
He's NOT a top flight DC. He's mediocre at best. LSU can and should do much better than this. His defenses at UCLA are mediocre every year. Yeah, lets go hire a mediocre DC from the West Coast with no contacts in the South and little knowledge of what it takes to stop S.E.C. offenses. But hey, he's Black and a "Great Recruiter" so lets sign him up a la D.J. McCarthy. (Also came from U.C.L.A.) We all know how that's turned out. (Great recruiter that can't technically coach a lick). Hiring Walker would be too big a gamble, which is something L.S.U. just can't afford right now..........
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:39 pm to Hideo Nomo
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:45 pm to philter
Was given several opportunities to say he was staying at UCLA, but never shut the door fwiw.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:58 pm to philter
Heard an interview today from a guy that covers the Bruins that said he thinks DW will be making around 400k this year. I don't see LSU paying him much more than that so he may just stay put in LA. Even if he comes here it would not be long term maybe 2 years then get a head coaching gig.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:18 pm to philter
"what would you do to stop Tebow, coach?"
that stumped him
that stumped him
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:19 pm to philter
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Was given several opportunities to say he was staying at UCLA, but never shut the door fwiw.
noticed that
he even slipped up when talking about his defensive guys by saying: "I can't..ah.. wait to coach them again"
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:20 pm to tygerstripes
quote:Cost of living
Heard an interview today from a guy that covers the Bruins that said he thinks DW will be making around 400k this year. I don't see LSU paying him much more than that so he may just stay put in LA.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:29 pm to tygerstripes
I could see LSU paying him a good bit more than that. Pelini's salary was substantially higher than that all totaled, plus as the poster above said money goes more than twice as far in BR compared to LA.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:44 pm to philter
I could see Walker making $700-900K at LSU ..probably on the shorter side of that but it would still be substantially higher than what UCLA is paying him
Pelini made around $750K when DC?
Pelini made around $750K when DC?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:54 pm to Derby Tigah
Never Understood The Walker fascination this board has.
In 2008:
UCLA gave up almost 30 points a game.
Did not average an int a game.
In 2007:
UCLA gave up more yards than they did in 2008.
2006 was his only season of giving up less than 20 points a game.
In 2008:
UCLA gave up almost 30 points a game.
Did not average an int a game.
In 2007:
UCLA gave up more yards than they did in 2008.
2006 was his only season of giving up less than 20 points a game.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:01 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Rule number 1 for hiring a coordinator.
They coordinate, that is the job description. Recruiting skill is a bonus.
They coordinate, that is the job description. Recruiting skill is a bonus.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:08 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Best I can tell is a couple of things on why folk are high on him:
1. He's black
2. He has NFL experience.
3. Folk like the "style" of defense he implements. Folk appear to give him the benefit of the doubt because he coaches at UCLA, thus the massive amount of points they give up.
1. He's black
2. He has NFL experience.
3. Folk like the "style" of defense he implements. Folk appear to give him the benefit of the doubt because he coaches at UCLA, thus the massive amount of points they give up.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:53 pm to guttata
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Chavis>>Walker
meh, chavis is not a great coordinator. he's been good for most of his career, with the exception of a few really bad years, but he's never had a great season. in all of his years as DC he's never had one year as good as any of pelini's 3 D's at LSU. walker has the potential to be better than chavis but he's not a proven commodity, it's a riskier hire
Posted on 12/18/08 at 9:20 am to TulaneTigerFan
In December 2006, his defense held the rival USC Trojans football team to under 10 points for the first time since 2001. It helped the Bruins end a seven game losing streak in the UCLA-USC rivalry.
Following the dismissal of UCLA head coach Karl Dorrell in December 2007, Walker was asked to be the head coach of the Bruins in the 2007 Las Vegas Bowl. Dorrell was offered to opportunity to coach a final game, but declined.[3][4] The Bruins faced Mountain West Conference champion Brigham Young University, a team they defeated earlier in the season. BYU beat UCLA 17-16 when BYU Cougars defensive lineman Eathyn Manumaleuna blocked a 28-yard field goal as time expired.[
here's a couple of games where it appears his d performed very well. so which is it? he sucks because of b.y.u. or he's great because he kept the mighty trojans out of the n.c. game?
these arguements are useless. you can pick a game from every coach. There isn't a consistant top 5 d.c. out there. Charlie strong struggled last year and is great this year. What is the difference? More likely than not, better players.
Randy shannon was considered the best in the business at one point. All of sudden, he doesn't know defense?
walker has the background and knowlege to be a very good and maybe great d.c.. He's considered the pac 10's best. With that in mind, he'd be a very good hire and upgrade for l.s.u.
Posted on 12/18/08 at 9:29 am to Rocket
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1. He's black
I'm not sure that's fair. I haven't seen anybody mention his race on here(though granted, I haven't read every thread). Hell, I didn't even know he was black until I looked up his bio a few days ago.
eta--I am neither for nor against hiring him--I know too little to make that call
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