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re: What's an acceptable record for the next two years?

Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:10 am to
Posted by skuter
P'ville
Member since Jan 2005
6269 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:10 am to
Should be 5-0 going to Florida next season
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10329 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:14 am to
Anything less than 10 wins is a failure ,
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:18 am to
quote:

They are switching to the spread but hiring Kiffin as OC?

Something is not making sense here

Why? Kiffin is running a spread at Alabama right now.

"Power spread" is the popular term: using a FB/HB/TE strong side with read options out of the shotgun.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23421 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:22 am to
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Except Coach Orgeron has gone on record as saying he wants to run a spread style offense with a dual threat quarterback.
Etling ain't exactly a statue back there.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

#NextyearU is real

The '17 schedule will be rough.

After the one year grace period, it's #ThisYearU or this board will be open in October of '18.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:27 am to
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After the one year grace period, it's #ThisYearU or this board will be open in October of '18.

except Aranda and Kiffin will be gone

then the new excuses will keep rolling in
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25818 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:28 am to
"More wins than Saban, no matter what..." - the Rant.
Posted by Stud Bud
MS But travel all over the country
Member since Sep 2015
6958 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:29 am to
Yep.

Just like this year. Bama game and FL game were all Esminger's and the players' fault.

The wins were all O.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:30 am
Posted by Ltown_tiger
Livonia
Member since Aug 2013
2121 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:30 am to
If they want to win 10 games next year they better start searching the JUCO ranks for a big Phyisical middle linebacker. Devin White is good but who after that can step in and play middle?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38456 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:30 am to
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After the one year grace period
I think he kind of already had his grace period during his interim role.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:31 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:31 am to
O has basically set up his tenure at LSU with admitting he's not a good HC

that's why he's cheap and that's why we're going to spend so much money on "da best co-o-danatuh in uh-merka"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:31 am to
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I think he kind of already had his grace period during his interim role.

exactly

plus his hire was based on "continuity"
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:31 am to
They should hire some Louisiana high school coaches to succeed them for next year. Since they come from Louisiana they would be loyal and stay awhile.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:33 am to
There will always be a 1 year grace.

After next a 1 year grace to replace Aranda, Etling, Guice, etc...

Then another 1 year grace to replace Kiffin and whoever else.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23421 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:35 am to
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Yep.

Just like this year. Bama game and FL game were all Esminger's and the players' fault.

The wins were all O.
entire offensive gameplan vs Bama sucked you can blame O for that one.

I don't blame him as much for Florida. Three trips inside the 5 and zero points sucks but a Guice fumble and a botched snap on the FG were just flukey plays. The 3rd and goal call to JD Moore was horrendous.

Posted by tipup
Member since Sep 2005
1649 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:37 am to
For most of the tards on this site, nothing less than 24-0.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:38 am to
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except Aranda and Kiffin will be gone
then the new excuses will keep rolling in
thats my concern with O. We could always be in the "wait till next year when the players learn the scheme " role..
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10681 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:38 am to
quote:

There will always be a 1 year grace.

After next a 1 year grace to replace Aranda, Etling, Guice, etc...

Then another 1 year grace to replace Kiffin and whoever else.



2017 - Schedule too difficult, can't blame Ed.
2018 - Breaking in a new QB, not Ed's fault.
2019 - New defensive coordinator, Ed can't be blamed.
2020 - New offensive coordinator, Ed will get it right.

This will continue until he retires. He'll recruit just well enough so that 6-6 seasons (or worse) will never occur - we'll just be stuck in a seemingly perpetual cycle of 8-4 / 7-5 seasons.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 8:40 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:39 am to
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We could always be in the "wait till next year when the players learn the scheme " role..

O isn't that smart as a FB coach but he's learned how to play politics/PR

he knows EXACTLY what he's doing to keep this job

just like he knew EXACTLY what kind of stuff he had to do to get da bayou behind him
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6256 posts
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:40 am to
I love how the excuses are already piling up.

-First year grace period.
-hard schedule next year
-"Hover" around 10 wins (whatever that means)

Next it will be the coordinators fault, or they leave. The players left early. We need to wait to get O's guys in here, etc, etc.

If 10-2 is the standard then everyone is conceding that LSU will never play for an SEC or National championship again. To me, if you're going to get rid of Miles, it has to be to get someone who can contend for championships. But everyone knows that's not going to happen so the magical, 10 win season becomes the standard.

Look, they may win 10 games but unless they're beating Bama at least occasionally and making it to the SEC championship game and the playoffs then I'm not interested. This football program is capable of that, yet the bozos are fine with playing second (or third, or fourth) fiddle to Bama.

Oh, and by the way, 8-4 seasons will keep O employed for life. With his political ties and media control, he is entrenched so you should be looking more at can we get him out of here in the next decade, not the next 2-3 years.
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